Help with ID please... - Page 2

todaelaguadelmar · 05-07-2008, 01:25 PM

We found it ressembled a lot to T. sirtralis sirtralis and a little to T. radix, i don´t think it looks like T. marcianus because it hasn´t a darker neck. (those i´ve seen them before), i ´ll try to get more pics. soon.
I know Mexico isn´t a native place for T. sirtralis sirtralis and T. radix, that´s why it´s so confusing, and yes, it´s not easy to move species between countries, there are lots of sanitary and conservation issues.

todaelaguadelmar · 05-07-2008, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zephyr

It's a WC individual?

What does it means a WC indiv

idual?

adamanteus · 05-07-2008, 01:27 PM

WC = wild caught.

enigma200316 · 05-07-2008, 01:29 PM

I to from the pick think it is a T. marcianus, but clearer picks would be great if possible...............

adamanteus · 05-07-2008, 01:29 PM

Sarahi, can you take a mid-body scale count?

todaelaguadelmar · 05-07-2008, 01:30 PM

thanks a lor adamanteus.

todaelaguadelmar · 05-07-2008, 01:31 PM

how can i do that? the mid-body scale count?

adamanteus · 05-07-2008, 01:34 PM

todaelaguadelmar · 05-07-2008, 01:39 PM

Interesting.....but, where exactly? will it be the same all over the body? Should i measure it and do it exactly on tne middle?
thanks James.

adamanteus · 05-07-2008, 01:43 PM

No, about half way down his body, where he is the thickest.
It is enough to count from the dorsal mid-line scale to (and including) the final large scale before the ventral scutes. From this you can work out the count... the one in the drawing above would have a count of 19.... you only count the dorsal scale once, then 9 down either side.

05-07-2008, 01:25 PM	#11 (permalink)
todaelaguadelmar Never shed Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mexico City Posts: 25 Country:	Re: Help with ID please... We found it ressembled a lot to T. sirtralis sirtralis and a little to T. radix, i don´t think it looks like T. marcianus because it hasn´t a darker neck. (those i´ve seen them before), i ´ll try to get more pics. soon. I know Mexico isn´t a native place for T. sirtralis sirtralis and T. radix, that´s why it´s so confusing, and yes, it´s not easy to move species between countries, there are lots of sanitary and conservation issues.

05-07-2008, 01:27 PM	#13 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 6,618 Country:	Re: Help with ID please... WC = wild caught. __________________ James.

05-07-2008, 01:29 PM	#14 (permalink)
enigma200316 Basilisk (The King of all Serpents) Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Eastern, US Posts: 1,729 Country:	Re: Help with ID please... I to from the pick think it is a T. marcianus, but clearer picks would be great if possible............... __________________ "Can't wait for World Meeting 2009" Justin... 0.0.1 parietalis 0.1.3 similis

05-07-2008, 01:29 PM	#15 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 6,618 Country:	Re: Help with ID please... Sarahi, can you take a mid-body scale count? __________________ James.

05-07-2008, 01:30 PM	#16 (permalink)
todaelaguadelmar Never shed Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mexico City Posts: 25 Country:	Re: Help with ID please... thanks a lor adamanteus.

05-07-2008, 01:31 PM	#17 (permalink)
todaelaguadelmar Never shed Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mexico City Posts: 25 Country:	Re: Help with ID please... how can i do that? the mid-body scale count?

05-07-2008, 01:34 PM	#18 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 6,618 Country:	Re: Help with ID please... __________________ James.

05-07-2008, 01:39 PM	#19 (permalink)
todaelaguadelmar Never shed Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mexico City Posts: 25 Country:	Re: Help with ID please... Interesting.....but, where exactly? will it be the same all over the body? Should i measure it and do it exactly on tne middle? thanks James. Last edited by todaelaguadelmar : 05-07-2008 at 01:40 PM. Reason: to complete

05-07-2008, 01:43 PM	#20 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 6,618 Country:	Re: Help with ID please... No, about half way down his body, where he is the thickest. It is enough to count from the dorsal mid-line scale to (and including) the final large scale before the ventral scutes. From this you can work out the count... the one in the drawing above would have a count of 19.... you only count the dorsal scale once, then 9 down either side. __________________ James.

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