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LukeBonham · 01-08-2007, 08:48 PM

Hey there,
I was just wondering if there was anyone here in Canada working with Tetrataenia and if so what do you sell your offspring for?
Thanks,
Luke

Boots · 01-09-2007, 01:12 AM

I think you are going to have to get in line.

I saw a pair for sale last week, but they were already sold when I called. The asking price was not cheap either. $2000.00 for the pair.

Jason

Cazador · 01-09-2007, 01:18 AM

Jason,
I saw on another thread that you were looking for some new garters and was wondering what type you were looking at. Is your heart set on the tetrataenia, or do you have other species in mind as well? I'm not knocking the tetrataenia, of course.

All,
How much do they sell for in Europe (USD if possible)?
Rick

boeh · 01-09-2007, 01:21 AM

Hi there

On this way it is allowed to keep them in Canada?

@Boots
That's really expensive, I should sell my tetrataenias to some canadians....mhm, no ;-)

Cyrill

Boots · 01-09-2007, 01:31 AM

I think they were a breeding pair which is why they were so much. The highest I had hear them selling for before was $1500 CAD for a pair. I think the desire to own a pair comes from the fact that they are not very common. Of course the sheer beauty of them does not hurt either.

Jason

GarterGuy · 01-09-2007, 08:38 AM

Ok...I have to ask....are the Canadian T.s.tertataenia from the same breeding stock as the European?....or are new bloodlines somehow getting into Canada? I find it's a real shame that a snake that's so easy to breed in captivity like T.s.ssp...is not allowed, because they claim it'd be too hard to differentiate between captive bred and wild caught animals. The fact that T.s.tetrataenia may dissapeer from the US due to habitat loss and other environmental factors is insane. Other federally protected species are being captive bred. Is it really any easier to tell the difference between a captive bred Eastern Indigo (Drymarchon corais couperi) and a wild caught one....they're federally protected, but still show up for sale. Just doesn't seem right!

Boots · 01-09-2007, 10:34 AM

As far as I know the ones in Canada are from European stock.

Jason

Cazador · 01-09-2007, 11:16 AM

That's my understanding as well.

boeh · 01-09-2007, 01:14 PM

That's very sad. It would be a very big advantage if they were from another bloodline. As far as I know are there 2 differrent bloodlines in Europe. One from the zoo of Rotterdam and one from a private person from austria, which could import some years ago (however - I don't know). However, as far as I know were they mixed up already. A "clean" third line would be relieving, by thinking at the incest problems which already exist.

Best,
Cyrill

Snaky · 01-09-2007, 02:20 PM

I heard there was even only 1 bloodline, that from the zoo of Rotterdam. The other one does not exist, it's just a made-up story, have I heard.

01-09-2007, 01:12 AM	#2 (permalink)
Boots Moderator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 408 Country:	Re: San Francisco's I think you are going to have to get in line. I saw a pair for sale last week, but they were already sold when I called. The asking price was not cheap either. $2000.00 for the pair. Jason

01-09-2007, 01:18 AM	#3 (permalink)
Cazador Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Alaska, USA Posts: 1,608 Country:	Re: San Francisco's Jason, I saw on another thread that you were looking for some new garters and was wondering what type you were looking at. Is your heart set on the tetrataenia, or do you have other species in mind as well? I'm not knocking the tetrataenia, of course. All, How much do they sell for in Europe (USD if possible)? Rick

01-09-2007, 01:21 AM	#4 (permalink)
boeh "First shed, A Success" Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Basel Posts: 110 Country:	Re: San Francisco's Hi there On this way it is allowed to keep them in Canada? @Boots That's really expensive, I should sell my tetrataenias to some canadians....mhm, no ;-) Cyrill

01-09-2007, 01:31 AM	#5 (permalink)
Boots Moderator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 408 Country:	Re: San Francisco's I think they were a breeding pair which is why they were so much. The highest I had hear them selling for before was $1500 CAD for a pair. I think the desire to own a pair comes from the fact that they are not very common. Of course the sheer beauty of them does not hurt either. Jason

01-09-2007, 08:38 AM	#6 (permalink)
GarterGuy Brother Snake Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lancaster,PA Posts: 1,355 Country:	Re: San Francisco's Ok...I have to ask....are the Canadian T.s.tertataenia from the same breeding stock as the European?....or are new bloodlines somehow getting into Canada? I find it's a real shame that a snake that's so easy to breed in captivity like T.s.ssp...is not allowed, because they claim it'd be too hard to differentiate between captive bred and wild caught animals. The fact that T.s.tetrataenia may dissapeer from the US due to habitat loss and other environmental factors is insane. Other federally protected species are being captive bred. Is it really any easier to tell the difference between a captive bred Eastern Indigo (Drymarchon corais couperi) and a wild caught one....they're federally protected, but still show up for sale. Just doesn't seem right! __________________ *Roy* 1.1 T.s.pickeringi 0.1 T.s.concinnus 0.0.2 T.s.pallidulus

01-09-2007, 10:34 AM	#7 (permalink)
Boots Moderator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 408 Country:	Re: San Francisco's As far as I know the ones in Canada are from European stock. Jason

01-09-2007, 11:16 AM	#8 (permalink)
Cazador Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Alaska, USA Posts: 1,608 Country:	Re: San Francisco's That's my understanding as well.

01-09-2007, 01:14 PM	#9 (permalink)
boeh "First shed, A Success" Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Basel Posts: 110 Country:	Re: San Francisco's That's very sad. It would be a very big advantage if they were from another bloodline. As far as I know are there 2 differrent bloodlines in Europe. One from the zoo of Rotterdam and one from a private person from austria, which could import some years ago (however - I don't know). However, as far as I know were they mixed up already. A "clean" third line would be relieving, by thinking at the incest problems which already exist. Best, Cyrill

01-09-2007, 02:20 PM	#10 (permalink)
Snaky "PM Boots For Custom Title" Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,468 Country:	Re: San Francisco's I heard there was even only 1 bloodline, that from the zoo of Rotterdam. The other one does not exist, it's just a made-up story, have I heard.

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