oopps........

[Snake lover 3-25]

um............................. what is up with her tail????? is it time??????





sorry bad pics.......

[Zephyr]

Possibly.
Now you may witness the miracle of life.
Like in my health class last year...
*Shudder.* UGH...

[Loren]

So did you have those babies yet?
Whats taking so long?

I want babies now!

[Snake lover 3-25]

ME TOO!!!!!!! gosh Sooty what's taking so long!!!!!!!!! i really really want them now!!!!........ but it would prob be better timing if she had them after finals........ well my last test is on the 23rd so lets hope for then!!!!!!! i want 10!!!!!!

[Loren]

Shanley, you make me nervous for you, since you are soooooo excited. I am worried about what will happen if things dont turn out well at birthing time, which can happen.
But, hopefully everything goes just fine, and it probably will.

[Snake lover 3-25]

i would die!!!!!!!!! is it unusual to have all live young?????? that's what happened last time........

[enigma200316]

I don't think so, but it all depends on health of mother and what not, I mean even the healthiest snake can produce dead, and slugs, you'll just have to wait and see..........

[adamanteus]

Shanley, don't worry. You'll get a million beautiful healthy babies.

[dekaybrown]

Great !! Hope you have a big litter of little neonates.

I can relate to the horrors of failure at birth, We keep a big tank with 3 adult dekay browns and 2 smaller male garters.

Without my knowledge Casper (the male DK) had mated with Athena, I never even noticed she was gravid, one day while I was not home, Athena had given birth. (That "collapsed" look fat>starved looking in one day was my clue) but not one single baby snake?? well 2 days later the garters had calcium deposits in their poop,. Not much calcium in an earthworm!!

So the Garters have been moved, and Casper is getting released before any more mating occurs. (2 successful and one failed litters of dekay browns was enough for me)

Wal mart sells clear totes that are really tall for about $5-$8 that would be baby proof. a neonate garter cannot scale an 18 inch slick wall.

If you were to keep any number of babies, you will NEED to separate them within the year, or by 18-24 months you will have siblings doing the nasty with each other.

Neonate (baby) Garters are almost exclusively started out feeding tiny little guppies. Baby earthworms and baby night crawlers work but are very difficult to get unless you live very rural. (We have tons)

You also need to feed them in an enclosure with NO substrate, or cage carpet or newspaper. I have watched a baby snake choke to death on coconut hair, and found a dead red belly one morning with it's mouth packed full of the same stuff. My BP had bark in his poop from swallowing a chunk with his mouse.(previous owner did that, he's a rescue)

Thanks for sharing your excitement, I enjoyed reading this whole thread.

Regards,
Wayne A. Harvey

[Zephyr]

Originally Posted by dekaybrown

If you were to keep any number of babies, you will NEED to separate them within the year, or by 18-24 months you will have siblings doing the nasty with each other.

Inbreeding is very common in wild snakes for one. For two, it's safe, genetically speaking, for up to seven generations.

Neonate (baby) Garters are almost exclusively started out feeding tiny little guppies. Baby earthworms and baby night crawlers work but are very difficult to get unless you live very rural. (We have tons)

Night crawlers can be found at bait stores and are excellent, chopped, for baby easterns A few shakes of reptomin on the 3rd feeding after they've been born works as a stable for babies until they're a month or two old and are more willing to take other food sources.