Maritimes Garters(pallidulus)*pics

[Josh]

so is the one above snaky jeeze

[enigma200316]

since you seem to know a lot about the meritime, could you look at my pics and tell me what you think, I think it is a meritime,but they say there
not into NW, PA so let me know if you can....thanks
P.S. pics are in members gallery or in my post/ identify!

[northeastexotics]

ok I will try, I will go do that now.

[northeastexotics]

maritimes garters are only found in the northern half of maine, the species you found in your yard is the common garter -Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis

[enigma200316]

you did look at the pics right? because there is a lot of like features.....
can you explain the diff. to me? I'm new to garters and don't know the
correct identifing features of them.......thanks for any help.....

[stonyloam]

These garters were all found in upstate NY, near Rochester, and they do seem to look like Maritimes. The NYDEC lists them as present in New York. So I guess they might be around here and maybe in northern PA.
P.S. That “stonylaom” sure was a handsome creature!

[chris87]

lovely looking snakes

[KITKAT]

This seems to indicate that Maritimes are found in New York State:

SUNY-ESF E-Center: Snakes of New York

And this one

http://www.fs.fed.us/ne/newtown_squa...ne_gtr108d.pdf

says...

RANGE:

Eastern Quebec extending to Alberta in discontinuous
populations, s. to n. New Hampshire, New York
and n. Michigan. Intergrades with T. s, sirtalis to w. and

s. parts of range.

[drache]

gosh
"aggressive species with a nasty disposition"
that doesn't sound like Terry's snakes
of course Terry's been so nice to them, perhaps he charmed them past their nasty nature

[KITKAT]

Nah... that just describes herpetology buffs that live too close to the big city! HA HA HA