Just Gotta Ask...

OregonHerpaholic · 02-16-2007, 09:33 PM

I AM IN LOVE WITH THE SAN FRANCISCO GARTER SNAKE. THEY ARE A BIG NO NO IN US. (Near extintion in wild) BUT PERFECTLY FINE ELSEWHERE...which is why there are so many beautiful pictures I get to see.

SO, I JUST GOTTA ASK..

What do they sell for in Europe??? Here, it is a $10,000 fine, plus possible year in prison.

I can only dream....

Boots · 02-17-2007, 01:47 AM

A couple of months ago there was an adult pair for sell for $1600.00 CAD in Toronto. From what I have heard from other members, they sell for a lot less in Europe.

Jason

Daniel · 02-17-2007, 02:48 AM

Hi guys,

in Europe you may get young tetrataenia males for something around € 60 or USD 80. But this is really cheap and not so common. Normally you have to pay € 120 or $ 160 for a single tetrataenia.

For an adult female a friend of mine payed € 350 or $ 475 on the last years Hamm show.

Best wishes,

Daniel

hjelte · 02-17-2007, 03:51 AM

yeah, I was at a reptile-expo this january and you could buy tetrataenia for 1500 swedish crowns, which I believe is about 130 dollars or something around there.

Thamnophis · 02-17-2007, 07:46 AM

In the Netherlands between € 75,-- and € 125,-- for animals of a few months old.

ssssnakeluvr · 02-17-2007, 07:51 PM

sigh......just gonna keep on dreaming....such beautiful snakes...and all I can do is collect photos of the internet......

suzoo · 02-17-2007, 08:58 PM

I did not know we could not own them in the US. Not even if you can prove they were bought elsewhere?

GarterGuy · 02-18-2007, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by suzoo

I did not know we could not own them in the US. Not even if you can prove they were bought elsewhere?

Yep, they're a federally protected species, you'd need a special permit to have them and even with that, it's been designated that it's too hard to tell captive bred "legal" animals from wildcaught ones, so there's just a blanket policy that they are totally illegal to posess. That's why you don't even see them in zoo's too much. If the snakes breed, it's too much a pain in the *** to get rid of the babies that the zoos don't even want to deal with them.

OregonHerpaholic · 02-18-2007, 03:56 PM

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I did not know we could not own them in the US. Not even if you can prove they were bought elsewhere?

NOPE, need a special permit JUST TO PHOTOGRAPH them in the wild. Federally Endangered.. Said to be less than 100 left. The San Francisco Zoo had to buy theirs from DENMARK..

As I said, The UNTOUCHABLE SNAKE...

Daniel · 02-18-2007, 04:07 PM

Hey guys,

just to correct the last answere from OregonHerpaholic a little bit: The snakes for the San Francisco Zoo came from the Netherlands and not from Danmark. The Zoo in Rotterdam works together with some specialist in breeding tetrataenias. One of them (van Stralen) gave five pairs for a breeding-project to the Zoo of San Francisco last year.

It was a big thing discussed in the European Garter Snake Association.

Best wishes,

Daniel

02-16-2007, 09:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
OregonHerpaholic Never shed Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 34 Country:	Just Gotta Ask... I AM IN LOVE WITH THE SAN FRANCISCO GARTER SNAKE. THEY ARE A BIG NO NO IN US. (Near extintion in wild) BUT PERFECTLY FINE ELSEWHERE...which is why there are so many beautiful pictures I get to see. SO, I JUST GOTTA ASK.. What do they sell for in Europe??? Here, it is a $10,000 fine, plus possible year in prison. I can only dream.... __________________ Have You Hugged Your Herp Today??

02-17-2007, 01:47 AM	#2 (permalink)
Boots Moderator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 420 Country:	Re: Just Gotta Ask... A couple of months ago there was an adult pair for sell for $1600.00 CAD in Toronto. From what I have heard from other members, they sell for a lot less in Europe. Jason

02-17-2007, 02:48 AM	#3 (permalink)
Daniel "Preparing For First shed" Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Germany/Hamburg Posts: 69 Country:	Re: Just Gotta Ask... Hi guys, in Europe you may get young tetrataenia males for something around € 60 or USD 80. But this is really cheap and not so common. Normally you have to pay € 120 or $ 160 for a single tetrataenia. For an adult female a friend of mine payed € 350 or $ 475 on the last years Hamm show. Best wishes, Daniel __________________ webmaster of http://www.gartersnake.de member of the European Garter Snake Association (EGSA) http://www.egsa.de

02-17-2007, 03:51 AM	#4 (permalink)
hjelte "First shed In Progress" Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 81 Country:	Re: Just Gotta Ask... yeah, I was at a reptile-expo this january and you could buy tetrataenia for 1500 swedish crowns, which I believe is about 130 dollars or something around there.

02-17-2007, 07:46 AM	#5 (permalink)
Thamnophis Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,313 Country:	Re: Just Gotta Ask... In the Netherlands between € 75,-- and € 125,-- for animals of a few months old. __________________ Kousebandslangen.nl - Member of the EGSA It is always advisable to be a loser if you cannot become a winner. Frank Zappa

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ssssnakeluvr "PM Boots For Custom Title" Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 1,884 Country:	Re: Just Gotta Ask... sigh......just gonna keep on dreaming....such beautiful snakes...and all I can do is collect photos of the internet......

02-17-2007, 08:58 PM	#7 (permalink)
suzoo Juvenile snake Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 169 Country:	Re: Just Gotta Ask... I did not know we could not own them in the US. Not even if you can prove they were bought elsewhere?

02-18-2007, 04:07 PM	#10 (permalink)
Daniel "Preparing For First shed" Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Germany/Hamburg Posts: 69 Country:	Re: Just Gotta Ask... Hey guys, just to correct the last answere from OregonHerpaholic a little bit: The snakes for the San Francisco Zoo came from the Netherlands and not from Danmark. The Zoo in Rotterdam works together with some specialist in breeding tetrataenias. One of them (van Stralen) gave five pairs for a breeding-project to the Zoo of San Francisco last year. It was a big thing discussed in the European Garter Snake Association. Best wishes, Daniel __________________ webmaster of http://www.gartersnake.de member of the European Garter Snake Association (EGSA) http://www.egsa.de

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