constrict

grimmy · 03-28-2007, 03:19 PM

i know garters usually dont constrict but do they ever in there live im just curious cause my milks constrict

adamanteus · 03-28-2007, 03:25 PM

Garters are not constrictors. The closest thing I've personally seen to contriction from a garter is when the snake presses a loop of it's body onto a struggling prey animal to subdue it whilst swallowing. No actual constriction in the true sense of the word though. I think Garters lack the nesessary musculature to constrict.

Cazador · 03-28-2007, 04:34 PM

Ya know what? I think that's probably true about 99.9999999% of the time, but I've actually seen a picture of a garter "full-on constricting" a pre-killed mouse. I don't remember if the picture was on this website, or possibly on Yahoo. I'll see if I can find it.

Rick

adamanteus · 03-28-2007, 04:37 PM

Really? Are you sure it wasn't just holding it? Surely Garters lack the power (and instinct?) to contrict. I'd like to see picture, I love being proven wrong!!

adamanteus · 03-28-2007, 04:41 PM

I've seen some viper species constrict (only arboreal forms) but again this could be interpreted as "holding" rather than constriction. That said, it looked like constriction to me!

Cazador · 03-28-2007, 05:21 PM

I've found the picture, and I'm awaiting permission from the photographer before posting it here. I think you may be as surprised as I was to see such unusual behavior. I just don't know how else to describe the picture. BTW: The photographer is an "adjunct professor in biology" with a PhD, and she described it as "constricting." Hopefully permission will come soon.

Rick

abcat1993 · 03-28-2007, 05:45 PM

When I first got my garter it kept wrapping its tail around me and jumping off hanging by its tail, so it might have the instincts.

Stefan-A · 03-29-2007, 12:30 AM

As far as I know, it has been witnessed, but all sources describe it as restraining rather than constricting. So I'm pretty curious myself as to what those garters are actually doing.

Cazador · 03-29-2007, 01:58 AM

Fasten your seatbelts, Ladies and Gentlemen. Here's an odd little picture of a T.e. vagrans "constricting" a hopper. It's an aberrant behavior, but those are usually the most interesting

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P.S. This photo is courtesy of Dr. Lani Lyman-Henley

adamanteus · 03-29-2007, 01:59 AM

Well, I'll be!!

03-28-2007, 03:19 PM	#1 (permalink)
grimmy Hi, I'm New Here! Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 9 Country:	constrict i know garters usually dont constrict but do they ever in there live im just curious cause my milks constrict

03-28-2007, 03:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 7,966 Country:	Re: constrict Garters are not constrictors. The closest thing I've personally seen to contriction from a garter is when the snake presses a loop of it's body onto a struggling prey animal to subdue it whilst swallowing. No actual constriction in the true sense of the word though. I think Garters lack the nesessary musculature to constrict. __________________ James.

03-28-2007, 04:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
Cazador Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Alaska, USA Posts: 1,608 Country:	Re: constrict Ya know what? I think that's probably true about 99.9999999% of the time, but I've actually seen a picture of a garter "full-on constricting" a pre-killed mouse. I don't remember if the picture was on this website, or possibly on Yahoo. I'll see if I can find it. Rick

03-28-2007, 04:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 7,966 Country:	Re: constrict Really? Are you sure it wasn't just holding it? Surely Garters lack the power (and instinct?) to contrict. I'd like to see picture, I love being proven wrong!! __________________ James.

03-28-2007, 04:41 PM	#5 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 7,966 Country:	Re: constrict I've seen some viper species constrict (only arboreal forms) but again this could be interpreted as "holding" rather than constriction. That said, it looked like constriction to me! __________________ James.

03-28-2007, 05:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
Cazador Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Alaska, USA Posts: 1,608 Country:	Re: constrict I've found the picture, and I'm awaiting permission from the photographer before posting it here. I think you may be as surprised as I was to see such unusual behavior. I just don't know how else to describe the picture. BTW: The photographer is an "adjunct professor in biology" with a PhD, and she described it as "constricting." Hopefully permission will come soon. Rick

03-28-2007, 05:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
abcat1993 Old and wise snake Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: North of Chicago IL, US Posts: 867 Country:	Re: constrict When I first got my garter it kept wrapping its tail around me and jumping off hanging by its tail, so it might have the instincts. __________________ 0.1 Jack Russell Terrier 1.0 rough skinned newt 1.0.0 eastern garter http://www.winnetka36.org/ci/ci_name.htm

03-29-2007, 12:30 AM	#8 (permalink)
Stefan-A The Prince of Insufficient Light. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southern Finland Posts: 5,032 Country:	Re: constrict As far as I know, it has been witnessed, but all sources describe it as restraining rather than constricting. So I'm pretty curious myself as to what those garters are actually doing. __________________ No cutesy.

03-29-2007, 01:58 AM	#9 (permalink)
Cazador Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Alaska, USA Posts: 1,608 Country:	Re: constrict Fasten your seatbelts, Ladies and Gentlemen. Here's an odd little picture of a T.e. vagrans "constricting" a hopper. It's an aberrant behavior, but those are usually the most interesting . P.S. This photo is courtesy of Dr. Lani Lyman-Henley

03-29-2007, 01:59 AM	#10 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 7,966 Country:	Re: constrict Well, I'll be!! __________________ James.

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