Garter listing wrong?

Tori · 04-08-2007, 11:51 PM

I was checking out an ad for a few different kinds of garters, but after seeing the photos he had posted for each I believe that they are listed wrong. I thought I would see if anyone else feels that way. What he is calling red-sideds I think are oregon red-spotted and what he is calling a wandering garter looks more like a Santa Cruz, whatever it is I am certain it isn't a wandering garter. Here is the listings: NEW ARRIVALS I would love to hear everyone's opinions.

Tori

Stefan-A · 04-09-2007, 12:07 AM

Also calling T. e. vagrans (in reality Santa Cruz, like you said) "common garters".

Cazador · 04-09-2007, 01:11 AM

I noticed these adds, too. He also advertises for a "fire-striped garter." It seems like he's/she's a bit creative with the naming techniques

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ssssnakeluvr · 04-09-2007, 07:46 PM

I saw those too....nice looking ordinoides. he lists the red spotted garters as red siders.... It's hard to tell on the "vagrans" common garter...could be either t atratus or t elagans elegans...a subspecies of the western terrestrial garter... whichever one it is, its definitely not "common garters" or vagrans!!

adamanteus · 04-09-2007, 07:49 PM

I saw an ad in the UK for "Golden Garters". No pics with it, so I have no idea what they might be. Maybe Xenochrophis?

GarterGuy · 04-10-2007, 08:35 AM

Yeh, not really surprised......why I like to use the scientific names so there's not confusion. A lot of dealers will try to "spice up" the common names of snakes to try to make them sound more appealing. I actually bought my little Petra as a "redsided" garter, but knew she was a T.s.concinnus.
Roy

adamanteus · 04-10-2007, 08:39 AM

Yes, I must admit I prefer to use scientific names, but you still have to keep up with the regular taxonomic changes......look what they did to Elaphe!

04-08-2007, 11:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
Tori "Second shed, A Success" Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Holland, Michigan Posts: 272 Country:	Garter listing wrong? I was checking out an ad for a few different kinds of garters, but after seeing the photos he had posted for each I believe that they are listed wrong. I thought I would see if anyone else feels that way. What he is calling red-sideds I think are oregon red-spotted and what he is calling a wandering garter looks more like a Santa Cruz, whatever it is I am certain it isn't a wandering garter. Here is the listings: NEW ARRIVALS I would love to hear everyone's opinions. Tori

04-09-2007, 12:07 AM	#2 (permalink)
Stefan-A The Prince of Insufficient Light. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southern Finland Posts: 5,399 Country:	Re: Garter listing wrong? Also calling T. e. vagrans (in reality Santa Cruz, like you said) "common garters". __________________ Stercus accidit.

04-09-2007, 01:11 AM	#3 (permalink)
Cazador Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Alaska, USA Posts: 1,609 Country:	Re: Garter listing wrong? I noticed these adds, too. He also advertises for a "fire-striped garter." It seems like he's/she's a bit creative with the naming techniques .

04-09-2007, 07:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
ssssnakeluvr "PM Boots For Custom Title" Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 2,035 Country:	Re: Garter listing wrong? I saw those too....nice looking ordinoides. he lists the red spotted garters as red siders.... It's hard to tell on the "vagrans" common garter...could be either t atratus or t elagans elegans...a subspecies of the western terrestrial garter... whichever one it is, its definitely not "common garters" or vagrans!!

04-09-2007, 07:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 8,351 Country:	Re: Garter listing wrong? I saw an ad in the UK for "Golden Garters". No pics with it, so I have no idea what they might be. Maybe Xenochrophis? __________________ James.

04-10-2007, 08:35 AM	#6 (permalink)
GarterGuy Brother Snake Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lancaster,PA Posts: 1,356 Country:	Re: Garter listing wrong? Yeh, not really surprised......why I like to use the scientific names so there's not confusion. A lot of dealers will try to "spice up" the common names of snakes to try to make them sound more appealing. I actually bought my little Petra as a "redsided" garter, but knew she was a T.s.concinnus. Roy __________________ *Roy* 1.1 T.s.pickeringi 0.1 T.s.concinnus 0.0.2 T.s.pallidulus

04-10-2007, 08:39 AM	#7 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 8,351 Country:	Re: Garter listing wrong? Yes, I must admit I prefer to use scientific names, but you still have to keep up with the regular taxonomic changes......look what they did to Elaphe! __________________ James.

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