Gravid female

adamanteus · 05-05-2007, 04:23 PM

I was in the pet store today, buying pinkies and some other stuff. I had a walk around, (as you do,) seeing what was on sale, and they had a large obviously gravid T.s. parietalis for £55-. I didn't buy her because she was clearly wild caught and very ugly! But now I kind of wish I had bought her....her babies might have been beautiful. I need someone to tell me I made the right choice please! Gravid or not, you can't just buy every Garter you see, can you?

Thamnophis · 05-05-2007, 06:39 PM

James, I think you did the right thing.
If you suspect it is wildcaught, who knows what kind of trouble you got into your collection. And such a common subspecies is principly wrong to buy wildcaught. When it is a rare species/subspecies you throw away your principles.
And you are also right on: you cannot buy every garter snake.

Cazador · 05-05-2007, 07:24 PM

Honestly James... I also think you did the right thing. Granted that there is a lot of variability in how the offspring look, but if the mother looked poor, there's no reason to suspect that the father looked any better if they came from the same region (in the wild). There are such pretty parietalis out there that I'd just buy one you're happy with instead of keeping a mediocre one for the next 5-10 years.

Rick

drache · 05-06-2007, 05:39 AM

I agree with all the wise comments, but truthfully - it'd been a tough choice for me as well

Gijs & Sabine · 05-06-2007, 10:45 AM

I also agree with the others, James. There are beautifull parietalis available from a lot of different bloodlines, so why take the risk ?

mikm · 05-06-2007, 11:35 AM

Hey James ... 'you can't just buy every Garter you see, can you?' Your statement sums it up well James. I feel you made the correct choice and I have made that very comment to myself many times ...

A merry Sunday to you

marian

CrazyHedgehog · 05-06-2007, 03:57 PM

No you can't James...
But I can...where was the pet shop again.?

He he he he

adamanteus · 05-06-2007, 04:00 PM

Inga, it was an ugly snake! Even uglier than me!

CrazyHedgehog · 05-06-2007, 04:03 PM

Wow...that bad huh...lol
(I might like ugly! - you havent seen my hubby!)

05-05-2007, 04:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 7,958 Country:	Gravid female I was in the pet store today, buying pinkies and some other stuff. I had a walk around, (as you do,) seeing what was on sale, and they had a large obviously gravid T.s. parietalis for £55-. I didn't buy her because she was clearly wild caught and very ugly! But now I kind of wish I had bought her....her babies might have been beautiful. I need someone to tell me I made the right choice please! Gravid or not, you can't just buy every Garter you see, can you? __________________ James.

05-05-2007, 06:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
Thamnophis Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,313 Country:	Re: Gravid female James, I think you did the right thing. If you suspect it is wildcaught, who knows what kind of trouble you got into your collection. And such a common subspecies is principly wrong to buy wildcaught. When it is a rare species/subspecies you throw away your principles. And you are also right on: you cannot buy every garter snake. __________________ Kousebandslangen.nl - Member of the EGSA It is always advisable to be a loser if you cannot become a winner. Frank Zappa

05-05-2007, 07:24 PM	#3 (permalink)
Cazador Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Alaska, USA Posts: 1,608 Country:	Re: Gravid female Honestly James... I also think you did the right thing. Granted that there is a lot of variability in how the offspring look, but if the mother looked poor, there's no reason to suspect that the father looked any better if they came from the same region (in the wild). There are such pretty parietalis out there that I'd just buy one you're happy with instead of keeping a mediocre one for the next 5-10 years. Rick

05-06-2007, 05:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
drache Ophiuchus rhea Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brooklyn, New York Posts: 3,952 Country:	Re: Gravid female I agree with all the wise comments, but truthfully - it'd been a tough choice for me as well __________________ rhea

05-06-2007, 10:45 AM	#5 (permalink)
Gijs & Sabine Adult snake Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kudelstaart Posts: 639 Country:	Re: Gravid female I also agree with the others, James. There are beautifull parietalis available from a lot of different bloodlines, so why take the risk ?

05-06-2007, 11:35 AM	#6 (permalink)
mikm Subadult snake Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 355 Country:	Re: Gravid female Hey James ... 'you can't just buy every Garter you see, can you?' Your statement sums it up well James. I feel you made the correct choice and I have made that very comment to myself many times ... A merry Sunday to you marian

05-06-2007, 03:57 PM	#7 (permalink)
CrazyHedgehog "Fourth shed In Progress" Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 783 Country:	Re: Gravid female No you can't James... But I can...where was the pet shop again.? He he he he

05-06-2007, 04:00 PM	#8 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 7,958 Country:	Re: Gravid female Inga, it was an ugly snake! Even uglier than me! __________________ James.

05-06-2007, 04:03 PM	#9 (permalink)
CrazyHedgehog "Fourth shed In Progress" Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 783 Country:	Re: Gravid female Wow...that bad huh...lol (I might like ugly! - you havent seen my hubby!)

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