im not sure?

vwsrcool · 05-05-2007, 05:08 PM

i was in new york state this week, near niagra falls and i caught this snake, i dont think its an eastern, is it a maritime?

adamanteus · 05-05-2007, 05:13 PM

I think it is. It looks very much like the snakes in Stonyloam's thread "Baiting Snakes"

Baiting snakes

Check out the thread, see what you think.

Thamnophis · 05-05-2007, 06:32 PM

My first guess would also be a maritime garter snake.
Beautiful specimen.

stonyloam · 05-05-2007, 06:47 PM

Sure looks like "my guys". I am about 70 miles east of Niagra Falls. Maybe the maritime range is larger than the books say.

Sid · 05-05-2007, 07:23 PM

I'm no expert, but will say Maritime as well. Nice speciman.

Sid

drache · 05-06-2007, 05:35 AM

what a lovely snake to find

vwsrcool · 05-06-2007, 04:46 PM

does anyone know of any maritime color morphs?

GarterGuy · 05-06-2007, 05:28 PM

Yeh, looks like a pallidulus to me as well. As far as colour morphs, pallidulus has almost as many different colour "morphs" as sirtalis. Only big difference, is they tend to be well spotted and don't have hardly any dorsal stripes. There's already pics on here of people showing blue, red, green, brown and other colours. Whether you could call them actual morphs (that they'd breed true or not, I don't know).
Roy

ssssnakeluvr · 05-06-2007, 06:54 PM

I would also say pallidulus...very nice snakes... am looking to get me a couple pair of breeders...I emailed the valley pets guy and never got a reply....

NexXx · 05-10-2007, 06:01 AM

Omg, I might go hunting around that place then, that one snake looks so cool

. And Niagara Falls is only 40 mins away from here

.

05-05-2007, 05:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
vwsrcool "First shed In Progress" Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: sunbury pennsylvania usa Posts: 91 Country:	im not sure? i was in new york state this week, near niagra falls and i caught this snake, i dont think its an eastern, is it a maritime?

05-05-2007, 05:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 8,010 Country:	Re: im not sure? I think it is. It looks very much like the snakes in Stonyloam's thread "Baiting Snakes" Baiting snakes Check out the thread, see what you think. __________________ James.

05-05-2007, 06:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
Thamnophis Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,313 Country:	Re: im not sure? My first guess would also be a maritime garter snake. Beautiful specimen. __________________ Kousebandslangen.nl - Member of the EGSA It is always advisable to be a loser if you cannot become a winner. Frank Zappa

05-05-2007, 06:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
stonyloam "Third shed, A Success" Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Western NY Posts: 521 Country:	Re: im not sure? Sure looks like "my guys". I am about 70 miles east of Niagra Falls. Maybe the maritime range is larger than the books say. __________________ Terry

05-05-2007, 07:23 PM	#5 (permalink)
Sid Thamnophis Addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,639 Country:	Re: im not sure? I'm no expert, but will say Maritime as well. Nice speciman. Sid

05-06-2007, 05:35 AM	#6 (permalink)
drache Ophiuchus rhea Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brooklyn, New York Posts: 3,999 Country:	Re: im not sure? what a lovely snake to find __________________ rhea

05-06-2007, 04:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
vwsrcool "First shed In Progress" Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: sunbury pennsylvania usa Posts: 91 Country:	Re: im not sure? does anyone know of any maritime color morphs?

05-06-2007, 05:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
GarterGuy Brother Snake Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lancaster,PA Posts: 1,356 Country:	Re: im not sure? Yeh, looks like a pallidulus to me as well. As far as colour morphs, pallidulus has almost as many different colour "morphs" as sirtalis. Only big difference, is they tend to be well spotted and don't have hardly any dorsal stripes. There's already pics on here of people showing blue, red, green, brown and other colours. Whether you could call them actual morphs (that they'd breed true or not, I don't know). Roy __________________ *Roy* 1.1 T.s.pickeringi 0.1 T.s.concinnus 0.0.2 T.s.pallidulus

05-06-2007, 06:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
ssssnakeluvr "PM Boots For Custom Title" Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 1,891 Country:	Re: im not sure? I would also say pallidulus...very nice snakes... am looking to get me a couple pair of breeders...I emailed the valley pets guy and never got a reply....

05-10-2007, 06:01 AM	#10 (permalink)
NexXx Hi, I'm New Here! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Burlington, Ontario Posts: 20 Country:	Re: im not sure? Omg, I might go hunting around that place then, that one snake looks so cool . And Niagara Falls is only 40 mins away from here .

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