A sad weekend - Page 2

Gijs & Sabine · 05-14-2007, 02:58 PM

I'm so sorry to hear that

Hopefully something simular wont happen again.

Snaky · 05-14-2007, 03:03 PM

Thanks for the kind words everybody.

adamanteus · 05-14-2007, 04:48 PM

It would be a shame if you let this put you off keeping cyrtopsis in the future. You are experienced with this species, and furthering that experience would be a benefit to us all.

GarterGuy · 05-14-2007, 11:33 PM

Sorry to hear you've lost another little one. Really sucks, but I don't think it's the species, so I wouldn't give up on them just yet.
Roy

Snaky · 05-15-2007, 09:01 AM

I'm scheduling an appointment with the vet on Thuesday ( thursday and friday is a holiday ). I'm certainly going to wait on a result of that to see what I'm going to do. I've recently ( well within a few months ) bought new cyrtopsis bloodlines, so my decision won't be overnight. I really like them, although they are a bit different of the other garters.

Thanks for the comments, I appreciate it.

mikm · 05-15-2007, 09:14 AM

What would you say the difference(s) is between these and other Garters ?? Curious as I kept these but only as babies ....

much thanks !!!

drache · 05-15-2007, 09:18 AM

Marian asked the very thing i'm also curious about
how are they different?

Snaky · 05-15-2007, 11:12 AM

Their behaviour is different to the marcianus and the concinnus I also have. A nice example is when you approach the enclosure. Both the concinnus and marcianus will approach also, flicking their tongue heavily to see whether you don't bring anything along

. The cyrtopsis on the other hand are more shy, most of them will freeze immediately and afterwards gently flee to their hiding spot, only to return when you are not visible for them anymore.

Another thing, I never handle my snakes (personal decision not to do so). So it's only normal that my snakes are not really eager to be taken and do all kind of movements, even if I already catched them. The cyrtopsis have a rather different approach, I mainly have 1 of 2 reactions:
- I will threaten you by bluffing that I will bite you (don't worry, they won't do it)
- I will stay perfectly still while you grab me and will smoothly go through your hand when you have me.

So it are little things in their behaviour that is a bit different than other garters. And of course, they can be a challenge to get them eat, but once they eat there is no problem anymore.

Till now I've kept 6 specimens of th. c. c., but if you have some you'll soon realise they are a bit different in behaviour. Of course I also notice differences between marcianus and concinnus, yet they are not that big to me.

Gijs & Sabine · 05-15-2007, 04:52 PM

I absolutely agree with Snaky ! They are a bit different, but nice.

Here is a picture of one of the young T.c.c. from Snaky's cyrtopsis.
They are doing great !! As you can see they're appetite is fine

adamanteus · 05-15-2007, 04:55 PM

Nice looking snake, Sabine. Maybe due for feeding though!

Will you be breeding cyrtopsis soon?

05-14-2007, 02:58 PM	#11 (permalink)
Gijs & Sabine "Preparing For Fourth shed" Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kudelstaart Posts: 735 Country:	Re: A sad weekend I'm so sorry to hear that Hopefully something simular wont happen again.

05-14-2007, 03:03 PM	#12 (permalink)
Snaky Truieneer, e ras apoat Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,782 Country:	Re: A sad weekend Thanks for the kind words everybody.

05-14-2007, 04:48 PM	#13 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 8,465 Country:	Re: A sad weekend It would be a shame if you let this put you off keeping cyrtopsis in the future. You are experienced with this species, and furthering that experience would be a benefit to us all. __________________ James.

05-14-2007, 11:33 PM	#14 (permalink)
GarterGuy Brother Snake Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lancaster,PA Posts: 1,356 Country:	Re: A sad weekend Sorry to hear you've lost another little one. Really sucks, but I don't think it's the species, so I wouldn't give up on them just yet. Roy __________________ *Roy* 1.1 T.s.pickeringi 0.1 T.s.concinnus 0.0.2 T.s.pallidulus

05-15-2007, 09:01 AM	#15 (permalink)
Snaky Truieneer, e ras apoat Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,782 Country:	Re: A sad weekend I'm scheduling an appointment with the vet on Thuesday ( thursday and friday is a holiday ). I'm certainly going to wait on a result of that to see what I'm going to do. I've recently ( well within a few months ) bought new cyrtopsis bloodlines, so my decision won't be overnight. I really like them, although they are a bit different of the other garters. Thanks for the comments, I appreciate it.

05-15-2007, 09:14 AM	#16 (permalink)
mikm Subadult snake Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 355 Country:	Re: A sad weekend What would you say the difference(s) is between these and other Garters ?? Curious as I kept these but only as babies .... much thanks !!! __________________ marian Last edited by mikm : 05-15-2007 at 09:41 AM.

05-15-2007, 09:18 AM	#17 (permalink)
drache Ophiuchus rhea Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brooklyn, New York Posts: 4,416 Country:	Re: A sad weekend Marian asked the very thing i'm also curious about how are they different? __________________ rhea "Life is just one damn thing after another." Mark Twain

05-15-2007, 11:12 AM	#18 (permalink)
Snaky Truieneer, e ras apoat Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,782 Country:	Re: A sad weekend Their behaviour is different to the marcianus and the concinnus I also have. A nice example is when you approach the enclosure. Both the concinnus and marcianus will approach also, flicking their tongue heavily to see whether you don't bring anything along. The cyrtopsis on the other hand are more shy, most of them will freeze immediately and afterwards gently flee to their hiding spot, only to return when you are not visible for them anymore. Another thing, I never handle my snakes (personal decision not to do so). So it's only normal that my snakes are not really eager to be taken and do all kind of movements, even if I already catched them. The cyrtopsis have a rather different approach, I mainly have 1 of 2 reactions: - I will threaten you by bluffing that I will bite you (don't worry, they won't do it) - I will stay perfectly still while you grab me and will smoothly go through your hand when you have me. So it are little things in their behaviour that is a bit different than other garters. And of course, they can be a challenge to get them eat, but once they eat there is no problem anymore. Till now I've kept 6 specimens of th. c. c., but if you have some you'll soon realise they are a bit different in behaviour. Of course I also notice differences between marcianus and concinnus, yet they are not that big to me.

05-15-2007, 04:52 PM	#19 (permalink)
Gijs & Sabine "Preparing For Fourth shed" Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kudelstaart Posts: 735 Country:	Re: A sad weekend I absolutely agree with Snaky ! They are a bit different, but nice. Here is a picture of one of the young T.c.c. from Snaky's cyrtopsis. They are doing great !! As you can see they're appetite is fine

05-15-2007, 04:55 PM	#20 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 8,465 Country:	Re: A sad weekend Nice looking snake, Sabine. Maybe due for feeding though! Will you be breeding cyrtopsis soon? __________________ James.

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