A sad weekend - Page 3

Gijs & Sabine · 05-15-2007, 04:59 PM

I don't think so. These 2 are to young and I have 2 adult females cyrtopsis occelatus, but no male. And 1 adult male c.c. but no female

And it's hard to find them (at least the adults are)

adamanteus · 05-15-2007, 05:02 PM

Do you know if Alan Francis is breeding them? He seldom answers his e-mails!

Gijs & Sabine · 05-15-2007, 05:17 PM

I know he breeds them, but like you said it's real hard to get an answer from him. I already found that out

MoJo · 05-15-2007, 07:50 PM

My girl just went into shed. I wish I could ship to Europe but I have no idea about how to go about it and would be too nervous to do it on my own.

Good luck finding some babies.

Joanna

Cazador · 05-15-2007, 10:32 PM

Hey Hans,

That really sucks!!! She was a snake that many of us came to know and admire through your photos and stories, and I'm sorry that she's now gone.

Rick

Snaky · 05-16-2007, 03:22 AM

Didn't know (or forgot

) you had 2 adult femal ocellatus, Sabine, way to go! Hope you find a man for them. It is indeed harder to find cyrtopsis species, certainly adults.

The appointment is arranged for Thuesday, luckily I found someone in the neighbourhood who specializes in reptiles. Although he has only a few years of experience yet. He can at least come and check everything out. I will keep you posted on any conclusions out of it.

mikm · 05-16-2007, 09:17 AM

Since I did not have these (cyrtopsis) too long the only thing I noticed in regards to being 'different' from other garters was their tendency to appear aboreal. They were almost ALWAYS hanging wrapped around the light cord at the top of their cage, the very highest point. These were Michael Smith stock, CB from WC parents. I acquired these from a friend of his via a barter. I sent Michael an email asking about their seemingly aboreal nature and he replied that they were commonly found in bushes.

Another point I thought I would mention ... I had 'heard' that cyrtopsis were difficult to feed as they are huge frog eaters in the wild. When I got my babies I also received a baby food jar with a few frozen locally caught (Texas) leopard (??) frogs in it that I requested of the seller. I used the frog meat & skin sparingly to convert the EBN's over to small pinks. I recall stuffing f/t pinks mouth with slivers of frog meat and/or skin. This worked well !!

Snaky · 05-16-2007, 03:53 PM

I can't say with certainty that it is something of cyrtopsis. But indeed I have 2 that consider the branches as their hiding space. And all like to climb, not that they are always very good at it. But I have the same with marcianus also.

Indeed, like you say, they can be a challenge to let them start eating and they mainly eat frogs. Due to parasite and other issues, I don't give that, but once you get them start eating on something, they will keep accepting it and it's usually no problem anymore.

adamanteus · 05-16-2007, 03:57 PM

My T. marcianus also climb a lot. As I type, they are draped amongst their branches like Christmas tinsel!

Gijs & Sabine · 05-17-2007, 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoJo

My girl just went into shed. I wish I could ship to Europe but I have no idea about how to go about it and would be too nervous to do it on my own.

Good luck finding some babies.

Joanna

Thanks Joanna, that's very kind

I hope everything is going well with your cyrtopsis.
I probebly will find cyrtopsis, but only babies I quess.

05-15-2007, 04:59 PM	#21 (permalink)
Gijs & Sabine "Preparing For Fourth shed" Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kudelstaart Posts: 735 Country:	Re: A sad weekend I don't think so. These 2 are to young and I have 2 adult females cyrtopsis occelatus, but no male. And 1 adult male c.c. but no female And it's hard to find them (at least the adults are)

05-15-2007, 05:02 PM	#22 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 8,465 Country:	Re: A sad weekend Do you know if Alan Francis is breeding them? He seldom answers his e-mails! __________________ James.

05-15-2007, 05:17 PM	#23 (permalink)
Gijs & Sabine "Preparing For Fourth shed" Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kudelstaart Posts: 735 Country:	Re: A sad weekend I know he breeds them, but like you said it's real hard to get an answer from him. I already found that out

05-15-2007, 07:50 PM	#24 (permalink)
MoJo Juvenile snake Join Date: May 2007 Location: MA Posts: 169 Country:	Re: A sad weekend My girl just went into shed. I wish I could ship to Europe but I have no idea about how to go about it and would be too nervous to do it on my own. Good luck finding some babies. Joanna

05-15-2007, 10:32 PM	#25 (permalink)
Cazador Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Alaska, USA Posts: 1,609 Country:	Re: A sad weekend Hey Hans, That really sucks!!! She was a snake that many of us came to know and admire through your photos and stories, and I'm sorry that she's now gone. Rick

05-16-2007, 03:22 AM	#26 (permalink)
Snaky Truieneer, e ras apoat Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,774 Country:	Re: A sad weekend Didn't know (or forgot) you had 2 adult femal ocellatus, Sabine, way to go! Hope you find a man for them. It is indeed harder to find cyrtopsis species, certainly adults. The appointment is arranged for Thuesday, luckily I found someone in the neighbourhood who specializes in reptiles. Although he has only a few years of experience yet. He can at least come and check everything out. I will keep you posted on any conclusions out of it.

05-16-2007, 09:17 AM	#27 (permalink)
mikm Subadult snake Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 355 Country:	Re: A sad weekend Since I did not have these (cyrtopsis) too long the only thing I noticed in regards to being 'different' from other garters was their tendency to appear aboreal. They were almost ALWAYS hanging wrapped around the light cord at the top of their cage, the very highest point. These were Michael Smith stock, CB from WC parents. I acquired these from a friend of his via a barter. I sent Michael an email asking about their seemingly aboreal nature and he replied that they were commonly found in bushes. Another point I thought I would mention ... I had 'heard' that cyrtopsis were difficult to feed as they are huge frog eaters in the wild. When I got my babies I also received a baby food jar with a few frozen locally caught (Texas) leopard (??) frogs in it that I requested of the seller. I used the frog meat & skin sparingly to convert the EBN's over to small pinks. I recall stuffing f/t pinks mouth with slivers of frog meat and/or skin. This worked well !! __________________ marian

05-16-2007, 03:53 PM	#28 (permalink)
Snaky Truieneer, e ras apoat Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,774 Country:	Re: A sad weekend I can't say with certainty that it is something of cyrtopsis. But indeed I have 2 that consider the branches as their hiding space. And all like to climb, not that they are always very good at it. But I have the same with marcianus also. Indeed, like you say, they can be a challenge to let them start eating and they mainly eat frogs. Due to parasite and other issues, I don't give that, but once you get them start eating on something, they will keep accepting it and it's usually no problem anymore.

05-16-2007, 03:57 PM	#29 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 8,465 Country:	Re: A sad weekend My T. marcianus also climb a lot. As I type, they are draped amongst their branches like Christmas tinsel! __________________ James.

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