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    "Preparing For Fourth shed" Jeff B's Avatar
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    Suprise litter in October

    Found a litter born this morning that was born sometime yesterday. What a big surprise to find a litter born this late in the season. There were 7 healthy babies and 3 stillborn. The female was a yearling erythristic flame 100% het albino. She was getting pretty big towards the end of June, so i put a male erythristic flame from the morh anerythristic in with her and they locked up, and a week later I put the my het silver male in with her and they locked up as well. Later I never really saw her getting that big so I figured she wasn't gravid and I just kinda forgot about the possibility of her being gravid, so I was quite surprised to see babies crawling around this morning. So these babies are definately 50% poss hets for Schuett albino and possible het for Mohr anery or possible het for silver. Looks like 5 of the 7 babies have some degree of erythristic flame, the other two are more black and gray looking, which isn't surprising as both silver hets and anything with Morh anery seem to turn out darker. The het silvers have a distinct look to them, so it will be interesting to see what the two normals look like after a few sheds and a little size to them. Either way these babies have the potiential to produce a new type of snow eastern. I am leaning on that they are from the het silver male as I would have expected more red/orange on them if the erythristic flame Morh anery male is the father, but I really can't be sure. Pictured is the litter, followed by mom and the two possible dads.







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    "Preparing For Fourth shed" BLUESIRTALIS's Avatar
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    Re: Suprise litter in October

    Sweet Jeff! Keep us updated with pics on these.
    Bluesirtalis

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    Re: Suprise litter in October

    Sweet Fall surprise.
    Steve
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    "Preparing For Fourth shed" Jeff B's Avatar
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    Re: Suprise litter in October

    I will tell you guys, I had to take a major double take when I saw the first baby moving around.....I thought nahwww can't be must be my eyes playing tricks on me...you know how some times you see just the tip of a tail and think..."is that a baby" and 99% of the time the answer is no, well this time the answer was yes, then another baby and another and another like popcorn. Boy was I pleasantly surprised...shocked actually. Even though these babies aren't anything spectacular to look at, this is one of the more important litters of my season from a long term breeding standpoint, this kinda makes my season.

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    Re: Suprise litter in October

    Awesome, congrats on the new babies!

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    Re: Suprise litter in October

    Awesome Jeff!!! Let me know when you want to send some of those my way, lol!!!

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    Re: Suprise litter in October

    Congrats

    I would agree by looking at them that the het silver is probably the father. I guess time and breeding will tell lol.
    Good luck with them
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    Re: Suprise litter in October

    Congratulations,
    seems youŽve produced some kind of lottery babies
    all the possibillities...
    thats too much for my old brain
    I think IŽll have to read again
    waiting, wishing... for babies
    best wishes
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    Re: Suprise litter in October

    Aw, they are adorable!!! Is it not possible for the males to have each fathered some of the babies??
    It is a real design flaw with human beings that people too stupid to have kids are also too stupid to master birth control.

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    Re: Suprise litter in October

    Cute, babies! Congrats!
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