I too saw Scott's ad and would like everyone's opinion.

[dieselbaby]

As everyone knows i have two checkered garters, and they are pretty easy keepers Nick started them out awesome. I have always wanted a blue puget sound garter. Now my question is would the better choice for me be the blue baby puget's or the florida blue stripes. I think they look pretty similar color wise. Its the blue im after. Since shipping is going to run me a pretty penny i want to make to right choice, i also asked for Scott's opinion in an email to him as well.

[infernalis]

It depends on what you would prefer as the (likely) temperament of the snake.

The Similis have a reputation for being feisty, nippy to downright mean, they get fairly large.

Pickeringii (Puget sound garter) are somewhat more mellow but in my limited experience are still a little nervous when handled.

A Blue Axanthic Plains Garter Snake (Blue Radix) is most likely to be the mellowest and tolerate handling the best.

Richard may chime in with his experiences with the blue concinnus he kept.

[dieselbaby]

well as far as biting goes i would like to avoid a mean biting snake, and as far as handling goes, we really dont handle our snakes much, other then for tank cleanings, or when i take our little male out for private feeding so his sister doesnt eat him. (and bath him when he is done so he doesnt smell like food) I am a watcher not a handler lol i love to sit and watch the snakes for hours observing their little personalities.

[d_virginiana]

Houdini wanted me to remind you that there are also Florida blue sirtalis

If you don't want to have a nippy snake you should probably stay away from the similis though. I've never heard anyone talk about having a sweet, calm, similis...

[infernalis]

as far as handling goes, we really dont handle our snakes much, other then for tank cleanings, or when i take our little male out for private feeding so his sister doesnt eat him. (and bath him when he is done so he doesnt smell like food) I am a watcher not a handler lol i love to sit and watch the snakes for hours observing their little personalities.

I am like that too.

[chris-uk]

I also saw Scott's ad and wanted people's opinions, so rather than start a new thread I'll add it here.

I was quite curious about the melanistic Cuitzeos. That would mean a completely black snake, right? I can't possibly imagine why anyone would want a melanistic Cuitzeo because they are pretty much all black in their natural colourings, and the charm of them is the white chin and pink tail - take that away and you just have any other black snake. Personally, if my Cuitzeos bred melanistic babies I'd be disappointed and selling them for less than the natural coloured babies. Am I missing something?


Edit - Just looked back on the ad, and I think I misread it due to a missing carriage return. I think melanistic relates to the black-bellied snakes that should be on the line above.

[dieselbaby]

i dont think i saw blue sirtalis or blue radix on the list. which is why i chose the florida blue stripe and blue puget. Myself im leaning towards the puget i think, i just love their color and markings. and those table manners, remind me so much of lexi and indy my two checkereds, but i would still like to hear what everyone has to say. I always like to keep an open mind, and hearing others experiences.

[dieselbaby]

I am like that too.

They are just so fun to watch, and i love it when they come out to check out something new i put in there tank. I like to mess with their tank set ups once a week, adding something different, whether it be something old i took out or something new i bought. since all their goodies wont fit in the tank all at once.

oh and as for size i like the big garters im hoping my girl lexi will get as big as Steve's Speckle. But a big snake that is mean, ill pass on that lol.

[dieselbaby]

I also saw Scott's ad and wanted people's opinions, so rather than start a new thread I'll add it here.

I was quite curious about the melanistic Cuitzeos. That would mean a completely black snake, right? I can't possibly imagine why anyone would want a melanistic Cuitzeo because they are pretty much all black in their natural colourings, and the charm of them is the white chin and pink tail - take that away and you just have any other black snake. Personally, if my Cuitzeos bred melanistic babies I'd be disappointed and selling them for less than the natural coloured babies. Am I missing something?

I too love their white chins and lil pink worm tails. i thought that tail was an awesome idea.

[kibakiba]

If you plan on buying from him, I don't think he can ship to ontario.