is Pine bedding okay??

Purplegrrl666 · 11-27-2007, 11:09 AM

Hello everyone,
I was wondering if pine bedding *shavings* would be ok in my garter cage?? I'm just super-low on money right now and I can't really buy other stuff, will it as least work for the time being?

Thank you!
~Carolyn~

Sid · 11-27-2007, 03:30 PM

Pine shaving contain oils that are harmful to the Garters respiritoy system. Over a period of time it can kill them. I would opt for paper until I could find something else that's harmless. I don't know how much exposure to the pine would be safe.

Stefan-A · 11-27-2007, 03:32 PM

Wouldn't recommend it. The resin in pine trees can, at least in theory, cause serious health problems for reptiles, including respiratory and neurological problems.

If I remember correctly.

adamanteus · 11-27-2007, 03:38 PM

Sound advice. Best to use aspen, if that's the kind of substrate you're after.

EdgyExoticReptiles · 11-27-2007, 05:41 PM

you can always use paper towls

adamanteus · 11-27-2007, 05:49 PM

Good point, Reed. All my young snakes are on paper towels. My adults are on slate floors.

LushLulu85 · 11-28-2007, 09:57 AM

am i right im believing that cat litter is ok to use just not when feeding?

Stefan-A · 11-28-2007, 10:28 AM

Cat litter might be too absorbent, might cause skin problems. Maybe.

salzar · 11-28-2007, 11:48 AM

cat litter has properties in it that make it clump and clay cat litter is better , but the dust is not too good, I have used cat litter in the past for my lizards and it was okay but the new stuff with all the fragrents and additives I would worry a bit about!!
the paper towle thing is great not pretty but clean up is a snap!!
bye
michelle

Cazador · 11-28-2007, 12:51 PM

I'd be a little concerned about the dust particles from cat litter, too. Since their heads are so close to the substrate, they're constantly inhaling whatever is on/in their substrate. Anything with the potential to disturb their single lung is off limits in my vivaria.

Rick

11-27-2007, 11:09 AM	#1 (permalink)
Purplegrrl666 Hi, I'm New Here! Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 7	is Pine bedding okay?? Hello everyone, I was wondering if pine bedding shavings would be ok in my garter cage?? I'm just super-low on money right now and I can't really buy other stuff, will it as least work for the time being? Thank you! ~Carolyn~

11-27-2007, 03:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
Sid Thamnophis Addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,960	Re: is Pine bedding okay?? Pine shaving contain oils that are harmful to the Garters respiritoy system. Over a period of time it can kill them. I would opt for paper until I could find something else that's harmless. I don't know how much exposure to the pine would be safe. __________________ Sid 9.14 T. s sirtalis, 2.2. T. s pinkeringii, 1.1 T. e vagrans, 1.1 T. s parietalis, 1.0 T. s sackenii- Peninsular Ribbon

11-27-2007, 03:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
Stefan-A Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southern Finland Posts: 6,384	Re: is Pine bedding okay?? Wouldn't recommend it. The resin in pine trees can, at least in theory, cause serious health problems for reptiles, including respiratory and neurological problems. If I remember correctly.

11-27-2007, 03:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 9,057	Re: is Pine bedding okay?? Sound advice. Best to use aspen, if that's the kind of substrate you're after. __________________ James.

11-27-2007, 05:41 PM	#5 (permalink)
EdgyExoticReptiles Edgy Exotic Reptiles Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,384	Re: is Pine bedding okay?? you can always use paper towls __________________ Email:reed@edgyexoticreptiles.com AIM: reed_kamsla http://www.edgyexoticreptiles.com

11-27-2007, 05:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 9,057	Re: is Pine bedding okay?? Good point, Reed. All my young snakes are on paper towels. My adults are on slate floors. __________________ James. Last edited by adamanteus; 11-27-2007 at 06:16 PM.

11-28-2007, 09:57 AM	#7 (permalink)
LushLulu85 netjer-ankh Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,787	Re: is Pine bedding okay?? am i right im believing that cat litter is ok to use just not when feeding?

11-28-2007, 10:28 AM	#8 (permalink)
Stefan-A Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southern Finland Posts: 6,384	Re: is Pine bedding okay?? Cat litter might be too absorbent, might cause skin problems. Maybe.

11-28-2007, 11:48 AM	#9 (permalink)
salzar "Second shed In Progress" Join Date: May 2007 Location: northeast Posts: 243	Re: is Pine bedding okay?? cat litter has properties in it that make it clump and clay cat litter is better , but the dust is not too good, I have used cat litter in the past for my lizards and it was okay but the new stuff with all the fragrents and additives I would worry a bit about!! the paper towle thing is great not pretty but clean up is a snap!! bye michelle

11-28-2007, 12:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
Cazador Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Alaska, USA Posts: 1,611	Re: is Pine bedding okay?? I'd be a little concerned about the dust particles from cat litter, too. Since their heads are so close to the substrate, they're constantly inhaling whatever is on/in their substrate. Anything with the potential to disturb their single lung is off limits in my vivaria. Rick

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