Thiamin deficiency video (seizures) - Page 2

Zephyr · 03-26-2008, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake lover 3-25

is there a real list with all the good and bad foods? i dont want that to happen to me...

Technically all living organisms have thiaminase. Just in different ratios. Generally, cyprinids will have higher levels of it than other fish.

adamanteus · 03-26-2008, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Zephyr

Generally, cyprinids will have higher levels of it than other fish.

I think you should elucidate, for those of us who don't 'Google', Kyle!

Zephyr · 03-26-2008, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by adamanteus

I think you should elucidate, for those of us who don't 'Google', Kyle!

Members of the cyprinid family are more fatty, oily fish, including carp, goldfish, minnows, etc.
Surprisingly, danios and white clouds are in this family.

snakeman · 03-28-2008, 02:45 PM

I have a juvie fl. eastern that is going thru this right now.I was feeding rosy reds.I guess around five months straight.It would not eat anything else.A couple of weeks ago It started corkscrewing when I picked it up.So the next two times I fed it I pinkie pumped.It does'nt corkscrew anymore.Its head is tilted sometimes,But is moving around way better.Out of about a hundred snakes this is the only one I have had do this.

Stefan-A · 03-28-2008, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Zephyr

Members of the cyprinid family are more fatty, oily fish, including carp, goldfish, minnows, etc.
Surprisingly, danios and white clouds are in this family.

Cyprinid fish are indeed the worst sources of thiaminase. I used to feed certain species to my snakes, but I stopped the second I read that fish belonging to this family were loaded with the enzyme.

Snake lover 3-25 · 03-28-2008, 03:42 PM

how many at a time and how often are minnows able to be put into their diet safely?

adamanteus · 03-28-2008, 03:44 PM

Just don't use them, if you have the option.

Charlet_2007 · 03-28-2008, 03:48 PM

does this thiaminase effect turtles and all reptiles this way or just garters?

adamanteus · 03-28-2008, 03:51 PM

I think it would effect all reptiles in the same way. I don't know how mammals cope with it.....
I don't eat many Goldfish!

Stefan-A · 03-28-2008, 03:52 PM

Doesn't even affect reptiles alone, it's mammals as well. You shouldn't even feed your cat raw fish from this family.

03-28-2008, 02:45 PM	#14 (permalink)
snakeman Juvenile snake Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: PA Posts: 165	Re: Thiamin deficiency video (seizures) I have a juvie fl. eastern that is going thru this right now.I was feeding rosy reds.I guess around five months straight.It would not eat anything else.A couple of weeks ago It started corkscrewing when I picked it up.So the next two times I fed it I pinkie pumped.It does'nt corkscrew anymore.Its head is tilted sometimes,But is moving around way better.Out of about a hundred snakes this is the only one I have had do this.

03-28-2008, 03:42 PM	#16 (permalink)
Snake lover 3-25 "PM Boots For Custom Title" Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NY Posts: 2,194 Country:	Re: Thiamin deficiency video (seizures) how many at a time and how often are minnows able to be put into their diet safely? __________________ S h a n l e y

03-28-2008, 03:44 PM	#17 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 8,351 Country:	Re: Thiamin deficiency video (seizures) Just don't use them, if you have the option. __________________ James.

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03-28-2008, 03:51 PM	#19 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 8,351 Country:	Re: Thiamin deficiency video (seizures) I think it would effect all reptiles in the same way. I don't know how mammals cope with it..... I don't eat many Goldfish! __________________ James.

03-28-2008, 03:52 PM	#20 (permalink)
Stefan-A The Prince of Insufficient Light. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southern Finland Posts: 5,404 Country:	Re: Thiamin deficiency video (seizures) Doesn't even affect reptiles alone, it's mammals as well. You shouldn't even feed your cat raw fish from this family. __________________ Stercus accidit.

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