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Old 03-10-2007, 07:35 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I have no desire to raise feeder frogs, but I do often wish, someone would.
As a frog owner, I have tried to breed for pet frogs.. NOT an easy task. If anyone did captive breed small, feeder frogs, they would be way too expensive to afford.. Almost all species have to be conditioned to breed.. this is creating a drought like fall, a COLD winter, and then a heavy early springlike rain.. and then the daunting task of raising the tadpoles, Which would require lots of space, time, and knowledge to figure it out.. Even something as simple as a pacman(Horned Frog) would take time and space to mass breed.


SO MUCH EASIER to go out a catch a bunch and toss in freezer.. many eastern hognose keepers do this.. I have done this with juvenile bullfrogs.. BUT you might be able to find frog breeders who need to cull thier brood.. I know a few Red-eye tree frog breeders who sell to hognose breeders..too many babies, make great feeders..


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Old 03-10-2007, 07:39 PM   #22 (permalink)
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For years the beef industry had been feeding cattle high protein pellets made from chickens' feet and recycled human excrement
Ewwww.. I think I need to be a vegetarian... And I do not wish to know what they feed vegetables...I can pretend they are pure..
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Old 03-11-2007, 05:01 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Re: Rodent diet

BTW my "Blue" Garter male will not take pinks, so much so that he does grab them from the bowl then spits them out. I put it back in with his fish, he removes it, lol

That sounds like a cat I used to have, who would pull pit the towel from under the food bowl and throw it on top, whenever I fed them tuna.
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Old 03-11-2007, 05:11 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Even something as simple as a pacman(Horned Frog) would take time and space to mass breed.

That's too bad.
I know that where I grew up, it sometimes seemed that nature itself was breeding them primarily as a feeder item.
Their survival rate, from egg to frog, must be something like two out of a hundred, if that much.
Btw - there's a special word for frog eggs in German (Laich) - is there one in English?
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Btw - there's a special word for frog eggs in German (Laich) - is there one in English?
Frogspawn!
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Old 03-11-2007, 05:23 AM   #26 (permalink)
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spawn - that's the word
thanks
sounds a bit creepy
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Re: Rodent diet

I have collected a mass of frogspawn this year. My intention is to rear the tadpoles on fish food and daphnia. Then, when I have a thousand little froglets, I will freeze them for baby Garter food.
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Re: Rodent diet

I have a hard time getting my snakes to take rat pinks.Even when I drench them in fish guts.
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You can always try scenting them with earthworms. Some snakes really love earthworms, so you can always give it a try.

But it's not necessary for them to accept pinkies to create a healthy diet.
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try mice
apparently there is a distinct difference in smell

one of my kingsnakes recoils from rats, but readily takes mice
I've thought of going through the whole scenting process with him
unlike the conversion from fish to pinkies, there's no nutritional advantage I know of
I can just feed him an extra mouse now and then
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