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    Question Milk?

    I just thought of something and wanted to ask can garter snakes drink milk like you know for calcium and all that stuff? Has anyone ever tried it before?

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    Re: Milk?

    I have never heard of a garter snake drinking milk...garters get their calcium from the bones they ingest in pinkies. If you feel that the snake is not getting enough calcium from pinkies there are supplements you can use...why do you feel that the snake needs calcium?
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    Re: Milk?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marnie831 View Post
    I have never heard of a garter snake drinking milk...garters get their calcium from the bones they ingest in pinkies. If you feel that the snake is not getting enough calcium from pinkies there are supplements you can use...why do you feel that the snake needs calcium?
    Mine is fine on pinkies. I was just wondering and it just came to mind.

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    Re: Milk?

    Milk wouldn't be a part of any garters diet, so I wouldn't give it to any of mine.
    Someone could argue that most garters don't eat pinkies in the wild, but I think garters are opportunistic and if they came across a mouse nest with suitable sized prey they wouldn't turn down the meal. I couldn't see a garter ever drinking milk, they couldn't milk the cow (no opposable thumbs you see).
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    Re: Milk?

    I wouldn't try it. They might lack the necessary enzymes to digest lactose. (milk sugar) Pinkies and/or whole fish, even if given infrequently, should provide enough calcium. Even earthworms are rich enough in calcium if they are "gut loaded", that is, full of what they eat.
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    Re: Milk?

    That's a new one.
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    Re: Milk?

    Whole fish have calcium in the skeletons as well.

    Pinkies have a belly full of mouse milk, I would not risk giving cows milk.

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    Re: Milk?

    Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
    I wouldn't try it. They might lack the necessary enzymes to digest lactose. (milk sugar) Pinkies and/or whole fish, even if given infrequently, should provide enough calcium. Even earthworms are rich enough in calcium if they are "gut loaded", that is, full of what they eat.
    Good call Richard. The primary enzyme is lactase. Humans from a pastoral lineage have just recently (relatively speaking of course) evolved the ability to produce lactase as adults. In the majority of the worlds population humans stop producing lactase about the time they hit puberty. Other mammals also quit producing lactase at about the time they become sexually mature. If a Garter (or any animal that doesn't produce lactase) were to drink milk they wouldn't be able to break down the lactose and it would ferment in the gut causing major problems. Sorry for the bit of trivial info.

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    Re: Milk?

    Thomas, your trivial info as you called it is right on topic with our discussion. Good job.

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    Re: Milk?

    I couldn't see a garter ever drinking milk, they couldn't milk the cow (no opposable thumbs you see).
    Haha but the rhythm in which they adjust their jaws would do the trick perfect! (For the right cow n teat that is, every cow is different) I used to live n work on a dairy farm lol I is Expert Teat Handler! ... No dirty joke intended... I am female... lol I couldn't resist.
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