need some advice....

jewel-dragons · 02-12-2008, 01:58 PM

i hope somebody can help me....
the vets here in the netherlands can not tell me what to do...

one of my marcianus has very hard very big eggs in her.... and she has it for more than 6 months now.... (maybe longer?)
i think they are stoned wax eggs.
what can i do now? she is still eating sometimes,but i think she has a problem with it.
does anyone know this problem?
here some photo's what i mean....

CrazyHedgehog · 02-12-2008, 02:01 PM

sorry cant help on that...you have tried warm baths and gentle massage?

jewel-dragons · 02-12-2008, 02:02 PM

not yet,but the eggs are very big!!! REAL BIG!!!!!

adamanteus · 02-12-2008, 02:11 PM

All I can think of to help, is to try to use a syringe to get baby oil or similar into the cloaca, and then try to gently manipulate them out...... but they look REAL big, Kuno.

reptileparadise · 02-12-2008, 02:21 PM

my god Kuno, They look huge!
They first thing that sprung into mind was surgery...These look way to big to come out naturally...

garterchick · 02-12-2008, 02:44 PM

wow, i never saw anything like this. other than what was allready suggested, (warm bath, mineral oil) i can't think of anything to try. is she still passing stool? did you say the vet doesn't know what to do?

Tori · 02-12-2008, 02:49 PM

I've heard of people that used a syringe with a needle. They pierced the skin and into the egg, withdrawing the fluid from inside the egg to shrink it so that the female could pass it. Its the only thing I could think of if warm soaks and massage does not work.

KITKAT · 02-13-2008, 07:55 PM

If you can puncture the end of the egg without hurting the snake, and using warm water soaks and mineral oil, then hemostats will assist the passage by getting hold of the tip of the now deflated egg shell.

Don't pull... just use gentle teasing.

drache · 02-14-2008, 02:45 AM

that looks and sounds scary, Kuno
I'm keeping my fingers crossed
I hope you can help her

Thamnophis · 02-14-2008, 02:59 AM

Surgery is the only real option, Kuno.
The biggest risk is that this snake will never have young again.

I do not think that an injection with Oxytocine will help, but it is maybe something to try before surgery.

02-12-2008, 01:58 PM	#1 (permalink)
jewel-dragons "Second shed, A Success" Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Waddinxveen Netherlands Posts: 263 Country:	need some advice.... i hope somebody can help me.... the vets here in the netherlands can not tell me what to do... one of my marcianus has very hard very big eggs in her.... and she has it for more than 6 months now.... (maybe longer?) i think they are stoned wax eggs. what can i do now? she is still eating sometimes,but i think she has a problem with it. does anyone know this problem? here some photo's what i mean.... __________________ www.jewel-dragons.nl www.gartersnake.nl www.mooren-lizards.nl www.reptiles4life.nl

02-12-2008, 02:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
CrazyHedgehog "Preparing For Fourth shed" Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 718 Country:	Re: need some advice.... sorry cant help on that...you have tried warm baths and gentle massage? __________________ Inge our house is like a zoo, too many to list here!

02-12-2008, 02:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
jewel-dragons "Second shed, A Success" Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Waddinxveen Netherlands Posts: 263 Country:	Re: need some advice.... not yet,but the eggs are very big!!! REAL BIG!!!!! __________________ www.jewel-dragons.nl www.gartersnake.nl www.mooren-lizards.nl www.reptiles4life.nl

02-12-2008, 02:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 6,676 Country:	Re: need some advice.... All I can think of to help, is to try to use a syringe to get baby oil or similar into the cloaca, and then try to gently manipulate them out...... but they look REAL big, Kuno. __________________ James.

02-12-2008, 02:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
reptileparadise Adult snake Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Achtmaal Posts: 577 Country:	Re: need some advice.... my god Kuno, They look huge! They first thing that sprung into mind was surgery...These look way to big to come out naturally...

02-12-2008, 02:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
garterchick "First shed, A Success" Join Date: May 2007 Location: austin , texas Posts: 122 Country:	Re: need some advice.... wow, i never saw anything like this. other than what was allready suggested, (warm bath, mineral oil) i can't think of anything to try. is she still passing stool? did you say the vet doesn't know what to do? __________________ tina, aka garterchick

02-12-2008, 02:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
Tori Juvenile snake Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Holland, Michigan Posts: 180 Country:	Re: need some advice.... I've heard of people that used a syringe with a needle. They pierced the skin and into the egg, withdrawing the fluid from inside the egg to shrink it so that the female could pass it. Its the only thing I could think of if warm soaks and massage does not work. __________________ Tori Remember: Marriage is the number one cause of divorce.

02-13-2008, 07:55 PM	#8 (permalink)
KITKAT "Fourth shed, A Success" Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 815 Country:	Re: need some advice.... If you can puncture the end of the egg without hurting the snake, and using warm water soaks and mineral oil, then hemostats will assist the passage by getting hold of the tip of the now deflated egg shell. Don't pull... just use gentle teasing. __________________ KitKat "Acts of kindness should never be random."

02-14-2008, 02:45 AM	#9 (permalink)
drache Ophiuchus rhea Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brooklyn, New York Posts: 3,423 Country:	Re: need some advice.... that looks and sounds scary, Kuno I'm keeping my fingers crossed I hope you can help her __________________ rhea "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain this place is one damn beautiful snake after another - me

02-14-2008, 02:59 AM	#10 (permalink)
Thamnophis Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,284 Country:	Re: need some advice.... Surgery is the only real option, Kuno. The biggest risk is that this snake will never have young again. I do not think that an injection with Oxytocine will help, but it is maybe something to try before surgery. __________________ Kousebandslangen.nl - Member of the EGSA It is always advisable to be a loser if you cannot become a winner. Frank Zappa Last edited by Thamnophis : 02-15-2008 at 07:12 AM.

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