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Re: TEENY baby snake found in my back yard, injured! :( help!
My girlfriend brought home a cat a few days after I found my snake. The cat left. Snake is still here. I told her the cat would be the end of the snake, one way or another.
G'luck.
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Domos Ophiusa
Re: TEENY baby snake found in my back yard, injured! :( help!
Sounds like you're doing all the right things. You'll just have to monitor and see how it goes. The limpness will hopefully only be due to swelling from it's injuries. Got any photos? ... you know we love photos
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I see blue redspots
Re: TEENY baby snake found in my back yard, injured! :( help!
You are right. The drinking/tongue flicking is a good sign. The "limpness" you described is likely just pain. The equivalent of a human limping due to a sore foot. I usually give an injured snake at least 48 hours before I make any prognosis. Some broken skin, or even a kink in vertebrae, broken ribs, etc doesn't mean much as long as the snake doesn't have internal injuries(usually they stop eating/drinking) and is breathing well. On the other hand, a snake that can appear to be fine, can be fatally injured internally and will refuse food/water and take a week or two to die.
He can hold his head up (it doesn't just hang limp) and he can drink. Those are both good signs. Broken skin heals quickly. A kinked tail is not usually serious. Don't beat yourself up over not getting there sooner. The cat was probably just "toying" with the snake, keeping it alive on purpose. If the cat wanted it dead, getting there sooner wouldn't have helped.
I try to avoid "hating" any animal for doing what comes naturally, but I felt the same way as a teenager when I suffered several losses of beloved animals(birds, snakes) to cats. You don't hate garter snakes just because they eat worms, even if the worm is a beloved pet.
Keep him warm and clean until the wounds are dry and/or tough enough that dirt doesn't stick. If he makes it that far, he'll live.
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Subadult snake
Re: TEENY baby snake found in my back yard, injured! :( help!
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Subadult snake
Re: TEENY baby snake found in my back yard, injured! :( help!
 Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan
You are right. The drinking/tongue flicking is a good sign. The "limpness" you described is likely just pain. The equivalent of a human limping due to a sore foot. I usually give an injured snake at least 48 hours before I make any prognosis. Some broken skin, or even a kink in vertebrae, broken ribs, etc doesn't mean much as long as the snake doesn't have internal injuries(usually they stop eating/drinking) and is breathing well. On the other hand, a snake that can appear to be fine, can be fatally injured internally and will refuse food/water and take a week or two to die.
He can hold his head up (it doesn't just hang limp) and he can drink. Those are both good signs. Broken skin heals quickly. A kinked tail is not usually serious. Don't beat yourself up over not getting there sooner. The cat was probably just "toying" with the snake, keeping it alive on purpose. If the cat wanted it dead, getting there sooner wouldn't have helped.
I try to avoid "hating" any animal for doing what comes naturally, but I felt the same way as a teenager when I suffered several losses of beloved animals(birds, snakes) to cats. You don't hate garter snakes just because they eat worms, even if the worm is a beloved pet.
Keep him warm and clean until the wounds are dry and/or tough enough that dirt doesn't stick. If he makes it that far, he'll live.
thank you so much for your input! ... I am doing all that you've said and in fact the injuries it has acquired arent or never were really "wet" ..... theyre just these marks that seem like broken skin but nothing seeps from them as far as i can tell. Nothing "sticks" to him I dont think, but then again nothing would because right now I dont have ANYTHING in the tote but the water dish and paper towels (in layers at one end so that he can get inside and hide if he wants to). However since the very last time i checked on him/her (about ten minutes ago) he was moving a little more than normal and sniffing around a lot. His tongue was in more action than I had seen previously, but his tail actually looked much MORE kinked than ever before :/ ... not sure what this means... It seems a bit hard for him to move about but he is doing so if he is at all disturbed (which I try not to do unless im making sure he is still alive).
I didnt want to put anything in there that he could use to climb on or anything (not that he really would I dont think in this state, but JUST in case) thinking that maybe he shouldnt be moving much other than straight forward. I thought going through branches and diff levels might complicate his/her injuries.
Another thing I've noticed just now when I checked on it was that his/her cloaca is open a little, and it was not like this before. I thoroughly examined him/her when I put her into the tote and that was not the case before.
I'm keeping this little guy clean and warm as best as I can and making sure she has clean water because that's all I know to do right now and I dont think much else will help at the moment.
also... I dont actually hate cats now, its just that it horribly disheartening when I see things like this happening. I'm so sensitive its a huge fault! lol .... I'm actually a cat lover and unfortunately could never actually hate cats but in the moment cats were the LAST thing I wanted to see :/
thanks again for your opinions!
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I see blue redspots
Re: TEENY baby snake found in my back yard, injured! :( help!
Still active, still sniffing, and still alive. Not even an oozing wound. The kinking seeming more severe could just be from swelling due to dislocated vertebrae. I've seen a few young garters with severe back injuries like that, even above the cloaca, and missing/severely disfigured ribs, that survived. He may have a speed disadvantage for the rest of his life but it sounds like He's going to be fine. Good save!
BTW, I have no idea where you found him, have not seen pics, etc. so I don't have an idea what he is either. a radix? other thamnophis? 'cmon. Spill it. One of the reasons I ask, is that I have several (at least 3 that are common) distinct and different species of thamnophis that can be found in my area. Some of them (T. ordinoides) almost always bear young in the fall, so there's lots of babies around when winter comes. the other species including sirtalis concinnus seem to favor early to mid- summer births. I'm thinking that one or more snakes gave birth in your yard, or nearby, recently.
Last edited by ConcinnusMan; 11-03-2009 at 05:00 AM.
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Subadult snake
Re: TEENY baby snake found in my back yard, injured! :( help!
Glad to hear that you're taking care of him! It sounds likes he's improving, I wish I could offer you some advice. Just keep it up!
Which is more tempting: The fruit of knowledge or the possessed, talking serpent? DUH! - The Serpent!
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Subadult snake
Re: TEENY baby snake found in my back yard, injured! :( help!
thank you to everyone that responded with opinions and advice, it was really nice of you!
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