The Differnce Between T.S.Sirtalis and T.s Pallidulus

Josh · 08-06-2007, 01:23 PM

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enigma200316 · 08-07-2007, 06:46 AM

I know this first hand how close they are in apperance.......
thats how I found this website.....there was snake under my pourch and had gotten a pic of it put it on here and we thought it looked like a meritime, but infact turned out to be an Eastern, so I can tell ya they do looks a lot alike, so I do agree though about the dorsal being faint or not even be seen on the Meritime, and I think there a bit lighter in color than an Eastern normally...........

Josh · 08-07-2007, 07:10 AM

well in a lot of cases there is no line but some i have seen ( these pictures i saw were on the internet) some that start with a line have it fade away. in some ive seen just parts of it were missing. I know there is some truth about there being an absent dorsal line. but i see where you are coming from

KITKAT · 08-07-2007, 11:53 AM

But in my neck of the woods - and Tigerlily's brood of 39 babies is no exception - there are plenty of T ss that are absent the dorsal line.

In her litter of 39, I would estimate there were eight.

A WC female I caught several years ago had no line, until you got to her neck, whereupon she had a very faint one. She was also gravid when caught, and had quite a few (10 of 20) that were absent dorsal lines.

enigma200316 · 08-07-2007, 01:25 PM

there are alot of t.s.s. that don't have or are faint dorsals, I have seen them , but the Meritime like I said are normally lighter or are more kinda olive color......well thats my opinion, and what I have seen since looking into both of them.......

Josh · 08-07-2007, 01:26 PM

Well i will just take that part out. I guess there are to many variables
Thanx for the info.

Josh · 08-07-2007, 01:30 PM

Alright i added a bit, go check it out.

enigma200316 · 08-07-2007, 01:36 PM

hey Josh....is there any way you could put them together and take a pic, I think it would be a little better to see the diff. between them.........

Josh · 08-07-2007, 01:37 PM

yea no problem.

enigma200316 · 08-07-2007, 01:40 PM

another thing about t.s.s. is that there coloration diffs. alot, but there background color is normally brown or black.........

08-06-2007, 01:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
Josh Thamnophis Collectus Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: wilkes barre Posts: 1,099 Country:	The Differnce Between T.S.Sirtalis and T.s Pallidulus Discussion thread for The Differnce Between T.S.Sirtalis and T.s Pallidulus. If you would like to add a comment, click the New Reply button

08-07-2007, 06:46 AM	#2 (permalink)
enigma200316 Basilisk (The King of all Serpents) Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Eastern, US Posts: 1,740 Country:	Re: The Differnce Between T.S.Sirtalis and T.s Pallidulus I know this first hand how close they are in apperance....... thats how I found this website.....there was snake under my pourch and had gotten a pic of it put it on here and we thought it looked like a meritime, but infact turned out to be an Eastern, so I can tell ya they do looks a lot alike, so I do agree though about the dorsal being faint or not even be seen on the Meritime, and I think there a bit lighter in color than an Eastern normally........... __________________ "Can't wait for World Meeting 2009" Justin... 0.0.1 parietalis 0.1.3 similis

08-07-2007, 07:10 AM	#3 (permalink)
Josh Thamnophis Collectus Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: wilkes barre Posts: 1,099 Country:	Re: The Differnce Between T.S.Sirtalis and T.s Pallidulus well in a lot of cases there is no line but some i have seen ( these pictures i saw were on the internet) some that start with a line have it fade away. in some ive seen just parts of it were missing. I know there is some truth about there being an absent dorsal line. but i see where you are coming from __________________ Josh *o.1 T. radix*

08-07-2007, 11:53 AM	#4 (permalink)
KITKAT "Fourth shed, A Success" Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 820 Country:	Re: The Differnce Between T.S.Sirtalis and T.s Pallidulus But in my neck of the woods - and Tigerlily's brood of 39 babies is no exception - there are plenty of T ss that are absent the dorsal line. In her litter of 39, I would estimate there were eight. A WC female I caught several years ago had no line, until you got to her neck, whereupon she had a very faint one. She was also gravid when caught, and had quite a few (10 of 20) that were absent dorsal lines. __________________ KitKat "Acts of kindness should never be random."

08-07-2007, 01:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
enigma200316 Basilisk (The King of all Serpents) Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Eastern, US Posts: 1,740 Country:	Re: The Differnce Between T.S.Sirtalis and T.s Pallidulus there are alot of t.s.s. that don't have or are faint dorsals, I have seen them , but the Meritime like I said are normally lighter or are more kinda olive color......well thats my opinion, and what I have seen since looking into both of them....... __________________ "Can't wait for World Meeting 2009" Justin... 0.0.1 parietalis 0.1.3 similis

08-07-2007, 01:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
Josh Thamnophis Collectus Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: wilkes barre Posts: 1,099 Country:	Re: The Differnce Between T.S.Sirtalis and T.s Pallidulus Well i will just take that part out. I guess there are to many variables Thanx for the info. __________________ Josh *o.1 T. radix*

08-07-2007, 01:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
Josh Thamnophis Collectus Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: wilkes barre Posts: 1,099 Country:	Re: The Differnce Between T.S.Sirtalis and T.s Pallidulus Alright i added a bit, go check it out. __________________ Josh *o.1 T. radix*

08-07-2007, 01:36 PM	#8 (permalink)
enigma200316 Basilisk (The King of all Serpents) Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Eastern, US Posts: 1,740 Country:	Re: The Differnce Between T.S.Sirtalis and T.s Pallidulus hey Josh....is there any way you could put them together and take a pic, I think it would be a little better to see the diff. between them......... __________________ "Can't wait for World Meeting 2009" Justin... 0.0.1 parietalis 0.1.3 similis

08-07-2007, 01:37 PM	#9 (permalink)
Josh Thamnophis Collectus Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: wilkes barre Posts: 1,099 Country:	Re: The Differnce Between T.S.Sirtalis and T.s Pallidulus yea no problem. __________________ Josh *o.1 T. radix*

08-07-2007, 01:40 PM	#10 (permalink)
enigma200316 Basilisk (The King of all Serpents) Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Eastern, US Posts: 1,740 Country:	Re: The Differnce Between T.S.Sirtalis and T.s Pallidulus another thing about t.s.s. is that there coloration diffs. alot, but there background color is normally brown or black......... __________________ "Can't wait for World Meeting 2009" Justin... 0.0.1 parietalis 0.1.3 similis

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