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Gijs & Sabine
03-01-2007, 07:39 AM
A friend of mine send me this video of the brutal slaugther of dolphins in Japan. It's horrible to see:( No animal deserves this !!!!

So please take a look at this video and sign the petition. Maybe together we'll be able to stop these killings. Thousands of people already signed it.

glumbert.com - Dolphin massacre in Japan (http://www.glumbert.com/media/dolphin)

Stop the dolphin and whale killings in Taiji Petition (http://www.petitiononline.com/golfinho)

adamanteus
03-01-2007, 07:56 AM
I signed the petition, but I'm not watching the video. It makes me ashamed to be human why I see such barbarism!:mad:

Snaky
03-01-2007, 09:14 AM
Signed, but I always wonder if these will help... They don't seem to care about the whales either, although there is quite some pressure on it from the world...

mikm
03-01-2007, 09:27 AM
me too James ... I do not need to actually see it to feel it :eek:

marian

Thamnophis
03-01-2007, 10:09 AM
I have watched the video and signed the petition. :(

It makes you feel ashame to be a human. :mad:

ssssnakeluvr
03-01-2007, 11:06 AM
Like I always say....if anything on this planet should be called animals, it should be the humans.......:mad:

Stefan-A
03-01-2007, 11:45 AM
I watched the video twice and I'm not signing that petition.

Cazador
03-01-2007, 12:18 PM
I also signed the petition, but I also respect the fact that Stefan has a mind of his own and thinks for himself. Too many people have a "follow the herd" mentality and don't think for themselves. I do, however, see differences between Finland's subsistance lifestyle and Japan's whaling "research." Alaskan natives also conduct annual whaling, but it's also a necessary part of their subsistance lifestyle. Their villiages wouldn't survive without the bounty from the sea... unlike Japanese villiages.

Anybody know what happened to the Japanese whaling ship (I mean scientific research vessel) that was ablaze in the Antarctic a couple of weeks ago?

Rick

Stefan-A
03-01-2007, 01:20 PM
Don't get me wrong, what I really object to, is the fact that they try to convince people by appealing to emotions. As far as I'm concerned, it's still a logical fallacy.

Then again, people often accuse me of not taking sides. ;)

Snaky
03-01-2007, 03:34 PM
I'm not so much as against killing dolphins, don't think I ever ate it, but I've eaten quite a lot of animals that other people haven't and will never do (but that's another thread) .It's just the way it was done in the movie. I disliked 2 things in it:

1) the use of sonars is very effective, but kills whole families. It should be more random, because now you kill the diversity.

2) cutting down their throat and waiting till they sufficate ... Why letting an animal suffer more than needed? It's the same as the slaughterhouses used to be, but now they try to use effective techniques that are quick. This might even not work all the time, but still diminishes that chance that they suffer for a long period before they die. In my opinion they are slaughtered because we want something nice on our plates, but the animals should suffer as less as possible.

Thamnophis
03-01-2007, 03:34 PM
For me it is not the killing of dolphins that I oject to. It is too easy, sitting on my sofa, to judge people making a living.
What really turns my stomach is the lack of respect for living creatures which is shown in this video.

Stefan-A
03-01-2007, 03:48 PM
I can only say that I can't comment on the subject much further without starting a very heated debate on the subject of animal rights, but the fact remains that we tend to make generalizations that we have no intentions of applying to all living organisms. Denis Leary had a very poignant rant on the subject on No Cure For Cancer.

Gyre
03-01-2007, 03:50 PM
I'm a vegitarian. I watched the video, and I'm not signing the petition. Only on the basis that I don't feel I've been well informed enough, and what information I did get was very one sided.

I don't think that eating meat is wrong, I think that the way it's harvested, (as in the case, seemigly,) is. I have friends who are farmers, who raise and slaughter their own animals. We bred rabbits when I was young, killed and ate them. I think it's natural and I'm only vegitarian at the moment because I'm not harvesting or raising my own meat.

I agree with Thamnophis, the lack or respect is sickening. This obviously, is out of balace.

Hannah

drache
03-01-2007, 04:21 PM
I don't really object to killing animals for food per se.
After reading the posts here, I did end up watching enough of the video to see that they're not killing these animals fast enough. That's what's bothering me most - the living animals being treated so cruelly.

abcat1993
03-01-2007, 04:51 PM
I stopped watching it. I've seen stuff like that before, just on how they get the dolphins you swim with in Mexico.

adamanteus
03-02-2007, 10:21 AM
Does anyone know why a Killer Whales' dorsal fin always falls over to one side in captivity? When you see footage of wild Orca the fin is erect, of course.

mikm
03-02-2007, 10:45 AM
hello James ... how's are my enclosures coming along, lol ?? ;)) ... seems you may have stumbled upon a "hot" topic >>>


6.A recent survey of killer whales off the coast of New Zealand documented that 23% of males had bent dorsal fins.

The drooping dorsal debate (http://www.wdcs.org/dan/publishing.nsf/allweb/854E4E6BDE04FC2380256907007A8C32)

adamanteus
03-02-2007, 10:47 AM
hello James ... how's are my enclosures coming along, lol ?? ;))

They'll be in the post by the weekend!!:D

Gyre
03-02-2007, 04:33 PM
Does anyone know why a Killer Whales' dorsal fin always falls over to one side in captivity? When you see footage of wild Orca the fin is erect, of course.

It's purely depression. Though, very old males (males have the tall, straight fins, whereas females have the short, sickle shape) will sometimes flop over too, but not long before they die of old age.

.. I had to write a report on it, so it's still fresh in my mind. :p

Thamnophis
03-02-2007, 04:37 PM
Very old males tend to have trouble getting him straight up and keeping him there :D

adamanteus
03-02-2007, 04:42 PM
Can you give Viagra to a whale?

Gyre
03-02-2007, 07:22 PM
How did I not see that coming. :rolleyes:

abcat1993
03-04-2007, 09:41 PM
Good one. Someone in my class last year thought that was for headaches. And he's the "smartest" one in the class (math grade = ~106% and we don't get much extra credit).

Josh
06-26-2007, 01:23 AM
That was digusting and im ashamed to have even watched part of it i signed