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maxmommy
08-07-2009, 06:07 AM
This is my garter snakes (I have three) first night out here in California. I purchased them online from a reputable source where I have purchased many herps before.
My question is; I now have them in two enclosures; the large one in a screened home and the other two are housed in a 10 gallon vivarium. My question is this; should I have a heat lamp on them at night? They are outdoors right now with a warming mat under the cages. They have 3 inches of pine substrate and a cover to hide in. The nights have been in the 60's and I am wondering if the ground mat is enough for these evenings.

GradStudentLeper
08-07-2009, 10:25 AM
This is my garter snakes (I have three) first night out here in California. I purchased them online from a reputable source where I have purchased many herps before.
My question is; I now have them in two enclosures; the large one in a screened home and the other two are housed in a 10 gallon vivarium. My question is this; should I have a heat lamp on them at night? They are outdoors right now with a warming mat under the cages. They have 3 inches of pine substrate and a cover to hide in. The nights have been in the 60's and I am wondering if the ground mat is enough for these evenings.

What species are they? If they are sirtalis or elegans they should be fine.

mustang
08-07-2009, 02:44 PM
was the source reptilesncritters?

maxmommy
08-08-2009, 08:25 PM
Here are a few pics of some of my babies: My two wirehaired dachshunds, "Max" and "Angie", my red-eared slider (one of two), my redfoot tortoise (hittin' the Jack Daniels ;)) and my NEWEST baby, " Skippy" the snake! (one of three). Now, is he/she an Indonesian Keelback?

guidofatherof5
08-08-2009, 09:11 PM
Looks like a Keelback to me. Beautiful snake.:)

count dewclaw
08-08-2009, 09:31 PM
I agree with Steve, looks like a keelback.

GradStudentLeper
08-08-2009, 11:53 PM
It does not look like a keelback. It is a keelback.

maxmommy
08-09-2009, 11:28 AM
LOL! 3 yays ,0 nays...Keelback it is! Now I am going to look for some posts on these guys..I can't help but feel my keelbacks are doomed! I gotta find someone who has had good luck with them....

Didymus20X6
08-09-2009, 11:39 AM
The company you ordered them from probably listed them with a scientific classification. You can Google (http://www.google.com) that classification, and it will tell you exactly what it is.

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According to Wikipedia, people sometimes market these keelbacks as "Canadian Garter Snakes". Weird, since real Canadian Garters Snakes are pretty much the same Thamnophis found in the US.

guidofatherof5
08-09-2009, 03:25 PM
LOL! 3 yays ,0 nays...Keelback it is! Now I am going to look for some posts on these guys..I can't help but feel my keelbacks are doomed! I gotta find someone who has had good luck with them....

I wouldn't say doomed. They have you. A Vet. fecal screen, the right food and habitat and they could very well have a long life. I myself would love to have a breeding pair. Getting them just adds to their troubles. C.B are what I'm looking for and I would jump at the chance to own them. I think they are beautiful.
Good luck and keep us posted on them.

mustang
08-20-2009, 09:44 AM
reptilesncritters cant tell which scientific name goes with which common name ,always google scientific name

Didymus20X6
08-20-2009, 10:24 AM
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