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drache
04-10-2007, 10:57 AM
just in today
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//542/IMG_0588.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//542/IMG_0597.jpg

they're a bit skinny
seem healthy otherwise though
I haven't checked them out in detail yet
want to give them a chance to settle in a bit
they're so beautiful

adamanteus
04-10-2007, 11:55 AM
Nice, Rhea. Watch out for internal parasites with those Xenochrophis if they're wild caught. They are beautiful snakes aren't they. (and very popular just now!) Do you know their sex yet?

drache
04-10-2007, 12:35 PM
they're supposed to be 1.2
once things are settling down around here, I'll take a closer look

drache
04-10-2007, 01:12 PM
upon closer inspection they definitely have nematodes and one has a blister
they're alert though, and curious
their orifices all look clean
genders 1.1.1, 'til the Doc gets to see them

jewel-dragons
04-10-2007, 01:26 PM
why are they so popular? whahahaha :-)

jewel-dragons
04-10-2007, 01:27 PM
Nice, Rhea. Watch out for internal parasites with those Xenochrophis if they're wild caught. They are beautiful snakes aren't they. (and very popular just now!) Do you know their sex yet?
females are much bigger than the males,the head is 2 times bigger than the male.

almost the same as the thamnophis ;-)

drache
04-10-2007, 03:20 PM
I'm pretty sure that I have two males and a female

vet appointment on Friday

Snaky
04-10-2007, 03:24 PM
Nice additions, congrats:)

Cazador
04-10-2007, 05:13 PM
Rhea,

If you get the chance, would you mind taking a picture of the nematodes in the feces? I think it would be very helpful in the future for people who are wondering about the condition of their new arrivals? Luckily, I don't have any nematodes to photograph at the moment :D.

Rick

adamanteus
04-10-2007, 05:20 PM
Good idea Rick.....wish I'd thought of that! Maybe we should all consider photographing every event from now on, good or bad, for the general good of all our members.

drache
04-10-2007, 08:22 PM
btw
two of them took scented pinkie today
normally I don't feed snakes the first day
I was feeding anyway and thought I'd offer
just because they're skinny
the biggest one sucked down three
one was still checking out his new digs and wasn't interested
I'll try to take poop pics tomorrow after work
if I get a helper I can try to take pics of the blister and the other skin stuff

FitnessFreak
04-11-2007, 02:25 PM
lol sorry to sound like an idiot but what are nemetodes?

adamanteus
04-11-2007, 03:14 PM
Nematodes... Intestinal worms....not nice.

FitnessFreak
04-11-2007, 03:52 PM
Nematodes... Intestinal worms....not nice.
=\ how do you get rid of them?

adamanteus
04-11-2007, 03:55 PM
It's probably best to let a vet sort them out for you, but Piperazine phosphate does the job in double quick time;) ...watch the dosage though!

Cazador
04-11-2007, 04:09 PM
I use 100 mg/g Panacur at a doseage of 25-40 mg of Panacur per kg of snake (per Roger Klingenberger D.V.M.'s recommendation). Panacur kills by "interfering with energy pathways." That's why it's best to consult a vet for proper diagnosis and doseage recommendations that are appropriate for each snake. People in need, though, can always find help online, here, but accurate weights of the snake and measurements of the medication are critical.

Rick

drache
04-11-2007, 04:47 PM
nematodes are parasitic roundworms or threadworms
they can occur in various environments

and actually
I have no evidence as yet, that my snakes have them intestinally

I was pretty certain yesterday that there were subcutaneous ones
now I'm not sure what that is
I'm probably imagining things
but I see or feel tiny bumps under the skin and then when I check there's nothing there
there are a number of other skin things
lesions, scars, rough patches
no evidence of mites

adamanteus
04-11-2007, 05:31 PM
You'll probably find that the majority of the scars and lesions become gradually less obvious now that these animals are in your capable hands, Rhea. The sub-cutaneous bumps are possibly worms, these will be removed by a worming treatment.

drache
04-11-2007, 05:49 PM
I think yesterday they looked much worse than today
like they were stiff and kinked from the trip
their skin looked much worse
I've washed and soaked a couple of times
and got some old shed off

I haven't offered food again
the one who didn't eat, is taking longer to settle in

next time I offer food, I will take the others out first
especially the female

Josh
04-11-2007, 06:44 PM
wow they are very pretty wat kind are they

drache
04-12-2007, 02:44 AM
they're Xenochrophis vittatus - Indonesian garters
and yes - they're very beautiful