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KITKAT
04-21-2007, 10:58 PM
OK... OK... now that I finally figured out how to use the macro on my camera, I have recounted the scales on my "T ordinoides".

I originally had a count of 19 on the female and 17 on the male, but I now have recounted with the macro setting, and I find 17 on both!

Below, find some pictures... ;)

KITKAT
04-21-2007, 10:59 PM
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/ordinoides_female_0407_3.jpg

My female...

KITKAT
04-21-2007, 11:00 PM
Another view of my female

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/ordinoides_female_0407_2cr.jpg

KITKAT
04-21-2007, 11:00 PM
And the male...

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/ordinoides_male_0407_6.jpg

KITKAT
04-21-2007, 11:01 PM
Another shot of the male...

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/ordinoides_male_0407_4cr.jpg

garterking
04-21-2007, 11:32 PM
OK... OK... now that I finally figured out how to use the macro on my camera, I have recounted the scales on my "T ordinoides".

I originally had a count of 19 on the female and 17 on the male, but I now have recounted with the macro setting, and I find 17 on both!

Below, find some pictures... ;)


Those are nice T ord's Kat, and still on my "to get" list

Cazador
04-22-2007, 01:49 AM
Hi Kitkat,

I got 10 to the centerline on the female, meaning it has 19 total dorsal scales. You have to count at mid-body since they vary along the length of the snake. Look at the first picture and count the scales rows closest to the bottom of the picture. See if you don't get 10 to the center line. I couldn't get a good count on the male, but the female is a pickeringii. They're great snakes and great pictures BTW.

Rick

adamanteus
04-22-2007, 02:17 AM
I also get a count of 19 on the female.....pickeringii.

mikm
04-22-2007, 07:33 AM
VERY nice ... pics and animals !! ... it's very nice outside, perhaps you have inspired a pic shoot here in NJ :D

enjoy your day,
marian

suzoo
04-22-2007, 09:12 AM
WOW Kitkat!!! Your snakes are beautiful!!!!

Snaky
04-22-2007, 03:05 PM
Very beautiful snake's!

drache
04-22-2007, 03:15 PM
they are lovely snakes, either way
and really nice photos too

ssssnakeluvr
04-22-2007, 08:30 PM
they look like pickeringi to me too....ordinoides look like this...

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//504/medium/northwestern_1.jpg

ssssnakeluvr
04-22-2007, 08:31 PM
are you gonna breed them??? I would like a few babies!!!!:D

Gijs & Sabine
04-23-2007, 01:40 PM
Very nice looking ordinoides and great pics as well:)

Odie
04-23-2007, 11:45 PM
I think they are very beautiful snakes, either way.

Ameivaboy
04-24-2007, 12:22 AM
was gonna say, they look a lot like my pickeringii

andyoconnor83
06-04-2008, 01:47 PM
sorry to resurrect a dead thread, but it came up in my google search for ordinoides, these snakes are very nice looking, and they are definitely T. s. pickeringii. As rare as blue striped ordinoides are, they still usually don't have the black barring on the upper labials. another way to tell, but not available from these shots is most sirtalis have 10 lower labials and ordinoides usually have 7 or 8. Great looking snakes though!

Steven@HumboldtHerps
06-04-2008, 10:08 PM
Are these WC? If so, what state? Both look like pickeringii to me. Aside from the scale rows, the female has 8 upper labials (not uncommon for sirtalis, extremely rare for ordinoides!). The male has 7 uppers (typical for both sirtalis and ordinoides). If these are CB, did you get them together?

Steve

jeanette
06-06-2008, 01:37 PM
they are beautiful :)

KITKAT
06-09-2008, 10:41 PM
they are beautiful :)

James was right, of course. They are pickeringii.

I am hoping they did the horizontal mambo this spring... waiting for results... :D

Loren
06-09-2008, 10:48 PM
I am hoping they did the horizontal mambo this spring... waiting for results... :D
Thats funny right there.
:D

Sid
06-10-2008, 04:02 AM
Those are beautiful Kitkat. Fingers crossed for you on the babies:)