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    Re: Need help Identifying Oregon snake, Wild Albino garter?

    Look at some of the pics of northwesterns and you will see that same pattern on some of them. The small head on that snake and the pattern on the face is northwestern. I first thought it was another wandering, but something didn't look right so after looking at all your pics and pics of northwesterns i strongly think she is a northwestern.
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    Re: Need help Identifying Oregon snake, Wild Albino garter?

    If it is a wandering, you should know they have been reported to be cannibalistic

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    Re: Need help Identifying Oregon snake, Wild Albino garter?

    This is such a neat looking snake! I hope you produce more of these in the future!
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    Re: Need help Identifying Oregon snake, Wild Albino garter?

    Richard posted this on the FB garter snakes group:

    "I think this is the same snake that was posted to the forum a while back. Never did get an answer on the labial count there either. If this is T. ordinoides than it would be the first and only T POS ever found. However, there have been plenty of this type found in T. e. vagrans. If I remember right though, this one is out of vagrans range. There are lots of places in Oregon where T. e. elegans has patterning very similar to vagrans and they often get confused for vagrans when they are really T. e. elegans. Upper labial count and location where found, would settle the question but from what I know right now, I think it's T. e. elegans. The willamette valley morph gets misidentified as T. e. vagrans or "intergrades" all the time because of the similar spotted pattern."

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    https://www.facebook.com/groups/2343260986/

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    Re: Need help Identifying Oregon snake, Wild Albino garter?

    I'll try to keep everyone up-to-date with pics and such.
    I definitely don't want her genetics lost so I will work with breeding her when she gets old enough.

    Here are a few pics I had taken when I decided to keep her and I went on a spree catching snakes from our rock pile.
    I let the majority go fairly shortly after these pics.
    I'm sitting here wondering if Gary's parents are possibly still anywhere in the area...
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    Re: Need help Identifying Oregon snake, Wild Albino garter?

    We still need that under tail photo, Please.
    Uncooperative snake can be set on a piece of gl***(glass coffee table tops work great) to make the photo easier to get.

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    Re: Need help Identifying Oregon snake, Wild Albino garter?

    Sorry forgot about tail pics. Here are a couple of the clearest I can get.
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    Re: Need help Identifying Oregon snake, Wild Albino garter?

    1st male 2nd female. Probably better to wait for the experts I'm just practicing
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    Re: Need help Identifying Oregon snake, Wild Albino garter?

    LOL Hey at least you know you will be right either way.

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    Re: Need help Identifying Oregon snake, Wild Albino garter?

    Aren't those pictures of the same snake?
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