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    Juvenile snake otis lee's Avatar
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    Re: Don's Massive Garter

    i know it will have 17 with 2 sm stillborns.

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    Re: Don's Massive Garter

    I think 22 healthy babies, no still-births.
    James.

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    Re: Don's Massive Garter

    This will be her first litter so I don't know how many it will be either... Both snakes are captive bred by Scott Felzer. The christmas albino is from the Iowa albino line and isn't compatible with the nebraska line..that means the babies would (according to Scott) be double hets, carrying genes for nebraska and iowa albino and christmas albino. Scott posted a pic of a cross similar to this done with a high red and a nebraska albino...the pic is on the garter snake forum on kingsnake. These babies should produce a variety when bred back to each other...hopefully some christmas nebraska albinos. I am hoping some albinos pop out! Scott has already expressed interest in some babies as he hasn't done this cross himself (surpisingly...he has so many different snakes already!!!). I am hoping she has around 20....(not making any official guess since she is my snake.. but will be surprised anyway..the more the better too!!!)
    hopefully she will pop soon!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Re: Don's Massive Garter

    okay
    guessing 17
    rhea
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    Re: Don's Massive Garter

    I'll guess 19.

    Rick

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    Re: Don's Massive Garter

    I'm going to go way off the charts here and say....33

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    Re: Don's Massive Garter

    My guess is 28. All healthy.

    Sid

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    Re: Don's Massive Garter

    How about 20, just because it's her first time
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    Re: Don's Massive Garter

    i think 26...

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    Re: Don's Massive Garter

    I go for 29.
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