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    Re: Is it ok to feed them on Sprats?

    Quote Originally Posted by kibakiba View Post
    My pc is lagging too much to look it up (cant open any tabs or windows while I'm backing everything up) but, the silversides that are in Sally's silversides are what I'm talking about.
    Ah, yes. That would be another exception.

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    Re: Is it ok to feed them on Sprats?

    I meant the Osmerus eperlanus.
    So you say there is no thiaminase in this fish species?
    Here it is considered by many people to contain thiaminase.
    Is there any research done?
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    Re: Is it ok to feed them on Sprats?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thamnophis View Post
    I meant the Osmerus eperlanus.
    So you say there is no thiaminase in this fish species?
    Here it is considered by many people to contain thiaminase.
    Is there any research done?
    I should have an article somewhere, but I'm not going to try to look for it.

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    Re: Is it ok to feed them on Sprats?

    Aw, Stefan... You're getting lazy! I'm interested in learning, and you're smart, so... Get off your behind and find it!
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    Cool Re: Is it ok to feed them on Sprats?

    Stefan, if you say that there has been research about it, then that is enough for me. I believe you.

    I feed my garter snakes for 95 % with Osmerus eperlanus and I add no more than a little bit of thiamine every 5 to 7 feedings. And I have never had any problems with that.

    By the way, isn't it so that the thiaminase in a fish destroys the thiamine in the fish after it is dead. And does not affect the added thiamine?
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    Re: Is it ok to feed them on Sprats?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thamnophis View Post
    Stefan, if you say that there has been research about it, then that is enough for me. I believe you.

    I feed my garter snakes for 95 % with Osmerus eperlanus and I add no more than a little bit of thiamine every 5 to 7 feedings. And I have never had any problems with that.

    By the way, isn't it so that the thiaminase in a fish destroys the thiamine in the fish after it is dead. And does not affect the added thiamine?
    Your own experiences weigh more than just my word. I could be wrong.

    Then again, you could just be lucky.

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    Re: Is it ok to feed them on Sprats?

    OK thanks everyone, I think I'll just avoid sprats then.

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    Re: Is it ok to feed them on Sprats?

    Don't believe that is luck. I raised a few hundred juveniles from more than ten (sub-) species on this diet and have never seen any sign of thiaminase. So it's fairly safe to say that the European Smelt is a safe fish to feed.
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