big red worms

[acovert]

I sent my boyfriend to walmart to buy worms for Scar, since Scar lives at his house. Instead of buying nightcrawlers, he bought these:

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They are red worms. Not all that big, but I remember reading about them being bad for garters when I first started looking into my options for feeding Cuddles. No more than 2 or 3 hours ago, Scar had several of them. I wasn't here at the time. I'm not sure exactly what kind of worm these are. Possibly a European nightcrawler, which may not be toxic? That is where the scientific name on the container led me.

Should I be concerned? Should I use this as an excuse to take Scar from my boyfriend, since this is now the second time he may have endangered the life of the snake?

He apparently thought nightcrawlers were the poisonous ones, after watching me buy them time after time for both Cuddles and Scar. I do know what to do with this situation, or if I can trust him anymore.

[guidofatherof5]

Those are a NO,NO. If he was going to feed those to the snake, TAKE IT.

[acovert]

He DID feed them to the snake. Is Scar going to be okay? Is there anything I should do for him?

The scientific name of the worm is eisenia hortensis, which is the european nightcrawler apparently. One site was saying that they're ok...but I have serious doubts. Supposedly they are not red wigglers/panfish worms.

EDIT
When I was playing with the worms they did secrete some kind of whiteish/yellowish substance.

[guidofatherof5]

Only time will tell. I wouldn't feed them to my snakes.
In light of the fact that night crawlers are safe, there is no reason to feed those.

[acovert]

I don't trust these worms. I am taking Scar overnight, at least, so I can keep a close eye on him.
Any more feedback would be appreciated, if anyone knows more about these kind of worms and what to look out for if they are indeed dangerous for garters.

[katach]

I agree with Steve. They look the same as red wrigglers to me.

[acovert]

So far Scar seems fine. I have no idea how many he ate, so if he didn't eat enough then maybe he will be okay. I got a few safe nightcrawlers in him earlier.
He's with me at my house. He's not going back to my boyfriend's place. I just have to find a way to make my boyfriend see that this is best for Scar.

[Selkielass]

You should be fine if he hasn't shown any reaction so far, he should be fine.
The toxin isn't always present, but feeding redworms is like Russian roulette.

[acovert]

He seems fine still. I'm not too worried now since it's been nearly 24 hours. But I think I am going to keep him with me from now on.

[guidofatherof5]

I think that is wise.