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    "First shed In Progress" CelestiHel's Avatar
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    Flush with Wild Snakes

    Hi all -

    I know this is a forum for captive snakes, but I figure you all probably have a good bit of knowledge about their wild behaviors and I could use some advice!

    I have a crack between the back of the house I rent and the addition on the house. A plant grew up between the crack and garter snakes have been using it as a superhighway to the space between the roof and the drywall ceiling in my living room.

    I am privately delighted (don't tell my landlord or it'll never get fixed! Hornets come through there, too, you know!) because I love snakes. Initially I was only seeing one snake, who slid out of her skin sometime in April (I'm guessing a gal because of the hijinx that follows, she's my profile picture). But then around Memorial Day, I was catching garter snakes all over my living room and Milksnakes, too, all of a sudden without warning. Once I caught everyone and blocked off the access to my living space (via heater vents and holes) I thought I had the issue licked.

    However, this weekend I watched no less that 20 garter snakes, one right after the other, marching (in their way) up the crack and into the roof space. It was like a single file parade of snakes. It was really cool to watch, I have to add.

    Okay, long story short. I now have no less than 20, but let's be real, probably many more garter snakes all crammed up on a piece of drywall above my couch. After some time, it's a lot of weight on that already poorly made ceiling (it's starting to sag just a bit). Also, I can't seal the crack with all those snakes inside, they'll be trapped.

    Here's what I'm trying to discern. What are the odds that those snakes are just up there breeding right now and will eventually make a mass exodus once they're done? Or, even though I didn't see so many before, is it possible that all those animals denned there over winter and they are permanent residents?

    The issue is that I need to humanely remove them before I fix the crack in the wall, but will they remove themselves if I wait?

    Any thoughts are welcome, in the meantime, here's a link to my Picasa web albums where I have some pictures:

    Picasa Web Albums - CelestiHel - Snakes of my ...

    Thanks for any tidbits you can offer!

    H

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    "PM Boots For Custom Title" Snake lover 3-25's Avatar
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    Re: Flush with Wild Snakes

    omg wow that's crazy! they may come out on their own to get food and water........ but if they've got a source of food and water there...... you may have to go get them out by hand....... i'm guessing that's where they hibernate.... so as long as your walls aren't full of worms, fish, frogs or mice you should be fine
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    Re: Flush with Wild Snakes

    That's amazing!
    I would expect they will soon leave of their own volition... they need to go feed, and I doubt there is any food source in your dry wall. I'm surprised they're still holed up indoors this late in the year.
    Enjoy it while you can.
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    Re: Flush with Wild Snakes

    very cool
    yeah - they're likely to leave soon
    welcome to the forum
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    Re: Flush with Wild Snakes

    Hiding pinkies in the attic wasn't a good idea. Welcome to the forum. I'm glad someone else is getting invaded.
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    Re: Flush with Wild Snakes

    It's ridiculous, I was just microwaving for 5 minutes and I watched more crawl up. They all go in, but no one comes out. I wish I had the dollars to buy one of those surveillance cameras and snake (haha) it up there. I want to see what's going on!

    You all are the only people who think this is neat. No one else will come to my house anymore until they're gone. If they are all up there just breeding, how long do you think this might go on for, given that they all started coming in memorial day and we're seeing a huge increase this past week or so? How long does the garter breeding season last.

    If I do have to cut them from the drywall, I promise crazy snake pictures. It'll look like fear factor, except I'll be having fun! Unless they all start musking me, I've about had it with that!

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    Re: Flush with Wild Snakes

    I don't think you have a breeding situation as much as you have a shelter situation. They found a good thing and like it. Can you get into the attic? I have a feeling it's going to smell really bad(in some people's opinion) If you could get up there and flush them out you could find where they're getting in and plug that hole. It's best to wait for a warm day when they're all out hunting. Grab me a handful and ship them off. I could use a few more around here.

    I know how you feel about people not coming over because of the snakes. For my kids birthday parties I have to move enclosures out of the livingroom and into the snake nursery. Otherwise some folks won't come. They don't know what they're missing.
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    Re: Flush with Wild Snakes

    Rubber gloves and a raincoat. And I seem to remember someone mentioning Clorox wipes.

    EDIT: You mean people will actually go through your yard and into your house, with like a bajillion radixes all over the place?

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    Re: Flush with Wild Snakes

    Quote Originally Posted by Didymus20X6 View Post
    Rubber gloves and a raincoat. And I seem to remember someone mentioning Clorox wipes.

    EDIT: You mean people will actually go through your yard and into your house, with like a bajillion radixes all over the place?
    My radixes are trained. You know the whole stranger danger thing. They don't come out unless I give the okay sign. I kind of feel like Willard, instead of rats I have radixes. I love it when they go after the neightbors cat. Kinda fun watching my kids attack. The cat doesn't get hurt but it knows not to come in my yard. I'm so proud of them when they come back in the house with a mouth full of cat fur. They're so cute.
    Steve
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    They are not just snakes. They're garter snakes.
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    Re: Flush with Wild Snakes

    Quote Originally Posted by CelestiHel View Post
    You all are the only people who think this is neat. No one else will come to my house anymore until they're gone.
    I think it's amazing, but can see why it would be a problem. Do you notice more activity in cooler or warmer weather? Are they moving into the house in the morning or evening? Or is it an all day thing? If there's just one way in, I'm thinking a one way butterfly like valve should work. They'd be able to get out, but not back in?

    This is a lame pic, but hopefully you get the idea... wonder if they'd push through it?
    Tami

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    from being a little mentally ill, she's pretty normal.

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