Quote Originally Posted by infernalis View Post
Thamnophis is Thamnophis, no contest.

The term "ribbon snake" was created as a description of the long slender build.

"Garter snake" was derived from the stripes resembling the garters that held up socks.

However you want to look at it.. Thamnophis is the classification for both snakes.


Ribbon snakes are slender and long.




Non ribbon snakes are thicker and stockier.



Agreed. They are all Thamnophis. But I wouldn't call all "homo" human beings. And clearly ribbon snakes are different or they would just call them garter snakes