Quote Originally Posted by Markus18 View Post
is the snake on the second photo not a Thamnophis butleri
Nope, all eaterns. Only other garter snake that lives somewhat near here are maritimes, which sometimes integrade with easterns just north of where I live, but I think all of those photos are pure easterns. That second one just doesn't look spotted because it was very relaxed. However there are many easterns that can have spots when they are relaxed, but this particular population only showed spots when flattened.