6 garters for 10 dollars in paper

[Millinex]

The comment was not directed at you.

You are correct, I have not seen any comments in THIS thread regarding keeping snakes solely for profit and not as pets however the comment has been made by some in OTHER threads.

AKA, Me, Don't be afraid to mention my name, it doesn't bother me.

The profitability stance is one thing, but combine that with statements that amount to "it is just a snake that can't think and doesn't feel"

That is my view based upon what I have observed and researched over the last 15 years, and "feel" is about emotion, not pain, the CNS.

and then defending the abuse of the animals with statements that amount to "humans, even abusive humans, are intrinsically superior therefore if in doubt they should get a free pass"

I'm not defending the abuse of animals, I'm more than against it; however, the idea of putting some 80 year old lady, or a 14 year old kid, in jail over a couple snakes when abuse wasn't intentional, is 100% STUPID. I'm not afraid to say it, that is why America is going down hill, myself, I'd rather educate both parties and let them try again and learn, than just throw them in jail. Again, these are the same kind of people who sue mcdonalds when they drop their coffee on themselves crying: "I didn't know it was hot!". Seriously, it's disgusting how much people cry and call for the justice system this day and age.

makes up negative viewpoint in my mind. WHile the average joe blow on the street can hold the views it is a bit different when such views are shared on a forum devoted to the well-being of these fine animals and the statements are made by someone who chooses to buy/sell/keep the animals in large numbers.

Oh man, I hold views different than you but still maintain a large collection of PERFECTLY healthy snakes. However, because I disagree with certain keeping methods, and certain uses of law, it's such a huge deal, that's laughable.

I was referring to someone that posted in this thread, I won't mention any names as that would be overly direct but it is likely that others who have followed various conversations are aware of the point I am making.

Hi, I'm Mike use my name and don't be afraid to.

I have followed several other conversations, and I'm aware of the person to whom you are referring; that was actually pretty direct, because I picked up on it and I think I've probably spent about two hours total on this forum.

Everyone did, however actually saying my name seems difficult for some people? It's not like I bite, oh wait, I do, I defend what I believe and I'm not a door mat.

Accusing someone of condoning abuse/neglect is pretty serious, and while I've come across people here who have different views on husbandry and animal psychology than my own, I wouldn't toss that sort of language out there on a forum where it seems like most everybody cares deeply about their snakes (otherwise, why else would they be here?)

Again, I never condone abuse/neglect, I just view this scenario different. Should the guy fighting dogs be in jail? Yep, the guy with a trailer full of poorly kept snakes in texas? Yep, because they KNEW what they where doing was wrong. Big difference. Also, in terms of "care deeply". That's one of those interesting statements. I will say I would never value my snakes over my dog, or monitors, doesn't mean I don't care about them though.