Well, Brad sold her to me as a hypo aka now called pastel 2 years ago, I assume she is a sibbling to the pair that just produced his new babies, so I guess your question is for him to answer, I'm just along for the ride and I'm not going to get all bent out of shape over weather she is or is not a hypo/pastel either way, but I hope next generation I get the same result he did, but I guess we shall see, either way the sire is my granite so the babies are 100% het for granite, that is garanteed as she was raised up by me and virgin untill this spring and I own no other checkered males besides my granite. She has dulled up some since she was a baby, so I don't know if she is a co-dom pastel or "het" recessive pastel or what. shrug. I guess if Brads gene is recessive then she would also be het and these babies would also be 50% possible het for Brads recessive pastel gene and 100% het granite.