I never think of them as easterns...I think of them as a species in their own right. I don't think we even have them around here do we? But I mean, if you are going to call a red-spotted an eastern, then isn't a parietalis technically an eastern too...and a fitchi, and infernalis, etc. I mean they are all subspecies, right? Of the sirtalis? But when we say eastern...we are really referring to the subspecies sirtalis sirtalis, correct?