Thanks Shannon , it's good to be here. Definitley one of the better forums. I would be on here more if it was mobile friendly or I need to get an iPad ! To much effort to use the pc! Getting the eggs is half the battle, the first females clutch failed early in the year, the 2nd female laid and 4 out of 7 look ok and due mid July . Then this batch 6 out of 7 look ok. Fingers crossed. Not much info on these so kinda learning as I go. . Thanks for all the comments will keep you updated . Also intersted to hear other liophis keepers experiences.