LOL Stefan, I looked back and remembered that they don't enough to make a positive id, I was thinking of fitchi vs. pickeringii and concinnus. sorry my statement isn't applicable, but I still see a nice interesting parietalis over a fitchi, other than ordinoides, fitchi are probably the most common wild snake I have seen in the wild and there is just something about this snake that would seem off if I were told it to be a fitchi, but that wouldn't rule out a intergrade.