Taxonomic discussion

[Stefan-A]

So what do you think of these?

They all look like definite fitchi to me, but you're the local.

This next one, however, is very interesting:

A muddled "Coast" with all the red flecking...

Are you positive that it's not something else? I know counting supralabials isn't a fool proof way of identifying T. elegans, since it can be 7 on one side and 8 on the other, but that one does have 7. I know this is going to sound stupid, but is there any chance at all that it could actually be an ordinoides? Nevermind, the scale rows seem to be 19, not 17.