Indonesian Garters and Petco

[MasSalvaje]

I like keelbacks quite a lot, I was bummed when they were outlawed in Arizona.

Are you sure these guys are outlawed in AZ? I know true keelbacks are outlawed here in UT and probably many other states but in the proclamation it only states that members of the Rhabdophis family are prohibited. It says nothing of Xenochrophis, which has many common names like the Striped Keelback or the Indonesian Garter.


Utah Division of Wildlife Resources

-Thomas

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

Are you sure these guys are outlawed in AZ? I know true keelbacks are outlawed here in UT and probably many other states but in the proclamation it only states that members of the Rhabdophis family are prohibited. It says nothing of Xenochrophis, which has many common names like the Striped Keelback or the Indonesian Garter.


Utah Division of Wildlife Resources

-Thomas

that's very true. They are not a member of rhabdophis, which are referred to as true keelbacked snakes. Striped keelbacks need a real name of their own already!

[adamanteus]

Striped keelbacks need a real name of their own already!

They have one! Xenochrophis vittatus! Because.....


"That's just one of the problems with using 'common' names.. they don't mean a thing, and you certainly can't enforce 'naming rules'. Keelbacks (Xenochrophis) are commonly known as Indonesian Garter Snakes, there is an entire genus of dangerously venomous Elapids in South Africa (Elapsoidea), which are commonly known as Garter Snakes. Then there is the North American natricine genus (Thamnophis), commonly known as Garter Snakes.
Which is right, which is wrong?"

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

They have one! Xenochrophis vittatus! Because.....


"That's just one of the problems with using 'common' names.. they don't mean a thing, and you certainly can't enforce 'naming rules'. Keelbacks (Xenochrophis) are commonly known as Indonesian Garter Snakes, there is an entire genus of dangerously venomous Elapids in South Africa (Elapsoidea), which are commonly known as Garter Snakes. Then there is the North American natricine genus (Thamnophis), commonly known as Garter Snakes.
Which is right, which is wrong?"

honestly, what I should have said, was... they need a real common name of their own!

when speaking of my snakes, i generally refer to them by latin, and I would do it 24/7 except for the fact that I know not everyone on the forums, EPSECIALLY over at reptastic, is fluent in latin names. You should see me snap my fingers when I am talking to someone about my garters and am trying to spit out the common name, because the latin one just rolled off my tongue and that's the only one I really think about in my head!! Meanwhile, the other person is still trying to figure out what language I was just speaking! Often when I'm at work and I start spouting off the latin names of.... oh, just about anything and everything... from xenopeltis unicolor to betta splendens to ophiophagus hanna, I get called nerd, loser, bookworm... etc

[adamanteus]

honestly, what I should have said, was... they need a real common name of their own!

There is the trouble.. they have one, several actually, one of which is Garter Snake!

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

which is why it kinda sucks that more people won't embrace the use of latin!

[Stefan-A]

when speaking of my snakes, i generally refer to them by latin, and I would do it 24/7 except for the fact that I know not everyone on the forums, EPSECIALLY over at reptastic, is fluent in latin names.

Scientific names. Usually it's latinized Greek.

Often when I'm at work and I start spouting off the latin names of.... oh, just about anything and everything... from xenopeltis unicolor to betta splendens to ophiophagus hanna, I get called nerd, loser, bookworm... etc

Start calling those people "ignorant pigs". Anyone who shows that kind of contempt for knowledge deserves to get torn a new one.

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

Scientific names. Usually it's latinized Greek.


Start calling those people "ignorant pigs". Anyone who shows that kind of contempt for knowledge deserves to get torn a new one.

okay on the first comment your right


on the second one, you're kind of right, except that they aren't really seriously trying to insult me, just playing with me