Indonesian Garters and Petco

[MasSalvaje]

I will continue to use the proper terminology when referring to rear fanged snakes, I will not allow a slightly possible ban to intimidate me or inhibit my use of terminology and information.

I would hope so, I am in no way against proper identification or verbage. My point is that if we are going to use the term of "mildly venomous" with species you have referred to, by your own rule above and one I am with you on, you must also apply that same title to Thamnophis.

And Loren I live in Utah where Keelbacks and the Lyre are controlled species. I was mistaken however, the Lyre is not controlled because of its mild venom like the Keelback. It is controlled because of its restricted range with in the state, so thank you for in advertantly addressing that.

-Thomas

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

by your own rule above and one I am with you on, you must also apply that same title to Thamnophis.

I do, quite often actually
It would just be extremely redundant to mention it on this forum every time I was speaking concerning them... but when I speak with people in person, at shows or customers in the store, I do inform and explain to people that garter snakes are by the books, rear fanged venomous animals.


I simply HAVE to try and find out where I found the info regarding the death from the Lyre snake bite and in which state they are protected... I know I have it somewhere! Don't you hate it when this stuff happens.... it was some time ago, when I get some real time on my hands, I will try and dig something up. I also met a guy today who is very informed on the laws and is one that enforces them, regularly confisgates reptiles and what not. I might be able to get help on that matter from him!!!