Fran or Sanchez?

[Snake lover 3-25]

no not the first time!!!!

yeah i'd say male female male too:

[Sputnik]

Woohoo! Thank you! You will have to teach me someday in person.

The little rascals aren't keen on being handled and have done a great job musking all over me today, but I will try to get some sideways pictures someday.

[Gijs & Sabine]

I hate to break the news to you. That's not a Garter. It's one of those cheap China "look-a-likes" I'll take it off your hands. I don't mind. I'll even pay for the shipping.
It's just the kind of guy I'm am. No thanks necessary.

My cheap China "look-a-like" mom is very insulted now !!


But to the genders, the tetra is a male for sure and the first concinnus looks like a female (not sure) and the second a male (more likely)

[Sputnik]

Haha, told you!

(Poor little Fran didn't make it then...no tetrataenia babies for me either )

That toy snake is just what these poor Americans need!

[Gijs & Sabine]

(Poor little Fran didn't make it then...no tetrataenia babies for me either )

I'm very sorry to hear that Do you have any idea what went wrong with her?

[Sputnik]

She just never grew. Ate only worms and occasionally a bit of trout or salmon. She lived with us for a bit more than a year but then just gave up.

[guidofatherof5]

My cheap China "look-a-like" mom is very insulted now !!


But to the genders, the tetra is a male for sure and the first concinnus looks like a female (not sure) and the second a male (more likely)

I've been watching those stuffed animals on ebay. That's as close as I'll ever get to a S.F.Garter(Thamnophis sirtalis tetrataenia ). You didn't have to rub it in.

[guidofatherof5]

She just never grew. Ate only worms and occasionally a bit of trout or salmon. She lived with us for a bit more than a year but then just gave up.

Very sorry to hear about your loss.

[Sputnik]

Maybe check again, James?

[Sputnik]

Just to make sure that I have definately been left with my female concinnus, would you please have another look at these pictures?