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    "Third shed, A Success" sirtalis01's Avatar
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    Re: greetings from texas

    thats good woohoo that means you could sale me a trio of eastern Blacknecks

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    Re: greetings from texas

    thats good woohoo.... that means you could sale me a trio of eastern Blacknecks

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    Re: greetings from texas

    aaa sorry about that lol

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    Re: greetings from texas

    There is a "Texas garter" that is endangered if you check their endangered list for Texas.

    I also live in San Antonio :P I have a checkered that showed up in my swimming pool. (luckily drained mostly or it would have taken me much longer to catch her)

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    Re: greetings from texas

    Quote Originally Posted by jamromhem View Post
    There is a "Texas garter" that is endangered if you check their endangered list for Texas.

    I also live in San Antonio :P I have a checkered that showed up in my swimming pool. (luckily drained mostly or it would have taken me much longer to catch her)
    where in SA ...north side?
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    Re: greetings from texas

    this is from texas parks and wildlife!!! no garter snake
    Snakes State Status Federal Status (Listed) Scarlet Snake
    Cemophora coccinea Threatened Black-striped Snake
    Coniophanes imperialis Threatened Indigo Snake
    Drymarchon corais Threatened Speckled Racer
    Drymobius margaritiferus Threatened Northern Cat-eyed Snake
    Leptodeira septentrionalis Threatened Brazos Water Snake
    Nerodia harteri Threatened Concho Water Snake
    Concho Water Snake (PDF 335.9 KB)
    Nerodia paucimaculata Threatened - Proposed for Delisting Smooth Green Snake
    Liochlorophis vernalis Threatened Louisiana Pine Snake
    Pituophis ruthveni Threatened Federal Candidate for Listing Trans-Pecos Black-headed Snake
    Tantilla cucullata Threatened Chihuahuan Desert Lyre Snake
    Trimorphodon vilkinsonii Threatened Timber (Canebrake) Rattlesnake
    Crotalus horridus Threatened
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    Re: greetings from texas

    [quote=sirtalis01;116928]aaa sorry about that lol[/quote
    thats okay lol mabey in the future when I get some babies .
    Thanks for the help mustang will help alot!!!

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    Re: greetings from texas

    [quote=ianrambell;116966]
    Quote Originally Posted by sirtalis01 View Post
    aaa sorry about that lol[/quote
    thats okay lol mabey in the future when I get some babies .
    Thanks for the help mustang will help alot!!!
    lookn foward to some pics!!! when u get em
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    For Mustang:

    Please have a look at this: CHAPTER 65WILDLIFE SUBCHAPTER OCOMMERCIAL NONGAME PERMITS RULE §65.331Commercial ActivityThe limitation I mentioned about T. radix and the limitation on trading in T. sirtalis comes from this. Please read before knee-jerking...

    Neither garter snake is listed as threatened. However, regarding trade, Texas has a blacklist and a whitelist. If a species is on the blacklist, you cannot breed and sell or trade them. This, unfortunately, includes the plains garter snake and the "common" garter. Since Texas has listed it only at the species level, this would include the area with Texas garters in central to north Texas as well as the area of eastern garters in SE Texas. I've kept and bred Texas garters before, and they are neat snakes that are spottily distributed but not currently endangered. However, I could not keep and breed them now, unless I wanted to keep all the babies myself.

    The whitelist shows the species that you can trade in. You won't find radix or sirtalis on the whitelist.
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    Re: greetings from texas

    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelSmith View Post
    For Mustang:

    Please have a look at this: CHAPTER 65WILDLIFE SUBCHAPTER OCOMMERCIAL NONGAME PERMITS RULE §65.331Commercial ActivityThe limitation I mentioned about T. radix and the limitation on trading in T. sirtalis comes from this. Please read before knee-jerking...

    Neither garter snake is listed as threatened. However, regarding trade, Texas has a blacklist and a whitelist. If a species is on the blacklist, you cannot breed and sell or trade them. This, unfortunately, includes the plains garter snake and the "common" garter. Since Texas has listed it only at the species level, this would include the area with Texas garters in central to north Texas as well as the area of eastern garters in SE Texas. I've kept and bred Texas garters before, and they are neat snakes that are spottily distributed but not currently endangered. However, I could not keep and breed them now, unless I wanted to keep all the babies myself.

    The whitelist shows the species that you can trade in. You won't find radix or sirtalis on the whitelist.
    but it dosnt say anything about the breeders who had them before this permit so they wont be imported since they were born here ...also u can goto reptilesncritters.com beceause theyre office is in NY but breeders are in TX ...i believe ammarillo so if theyre born here theyre not imported!!! Also this so called white list i believe is just a general idea beceause its too broad of a topic or else the would have made a big post about it...i emailed Texas Parks & wildlife about it i shjoud get a reply sooner or later
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