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    Re: Another intergrade theory: T. elegans X T.s.? = T.s. concinnus?

    but, it does look like a fitchii to me! If I had that snake, I would call it a fitchii, and keep it with other fitchii! I think I am missing something here. I do not get how me thinking that the original snake is a valley garter, and not an oregon red spot or a wandering says anything for or against what I said above? Besides, you said that it is not a concinnus, even though it looks like one, it most likely is not given the range it was found in? Kind of like this eastern I have. She looks like a maritime garter, small, colorful, lacking stripes and all that jazz, but she was found well outside the range of maritime garters. So, she can't be a maritime. If I had picked this snake up off the ground and it was within maritime range, I would have surely thought it was one, and not an eastern. When I think concinnus,I just don't think of a snake with bright tan stripe and lateral stripes, with black and red in between. And since Stefan mentioned that it was within their known range, that kind of makes some sense I guess.... I mean surely the range of different snakes is always changing and could expand... but this is why trying to obsess over the fine details just does not work. This is why i will use the given names of species and subspecies as my general guidelines, but never my bible.
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