Kewl! I used to know a spot right here in Vanc. where you could practically walk across the (few inches of) water on their backs.(red-legged frogs) I mean, they were thick! Not coincidentally, Thamnophis sirtalis concinnus were also thick in that area. I even caught a yellow bellied racer in the same area. He had a proplapsed reproductive organ, making it easy to catch him. I amputated it and kept him through 2 sheds and released him.