"Anery" Concinnus Arrived!

[gregmonsta]

Fantastic

[Jeff B]

My oppinion is definately leaning towards anery making the most discriptive sense, when I look at that snake I think "anery". By the way with Shannon's awesome camera skills that snake is definately bad *** good looking. Would love to have one of them and an albino right now, I would be thinking about doing a little dance to make a "rocky mountain snowstorm"

[ConcinusMan]

My oppinion is definately leaning towards anery making the most discriptive sense, when I look at that snake I think "anery". By the way with Shannon's awesome camera skills that snake is definately bad *** good looking. Would love to have one of them and an albino right now, I would be thinking about doing a little dance to make a "rocky mountain snowstorm"

I guess I'm as green as they come since I didn't understand any of that last sentence. First off, why would you only want one instead of a pair? second, there are no albino concinnus (prove me wrong) and I don't even know what to say about the snow dance.

[drui9201]

He wants an Anery & Albino pair of Concinnus to breed and make snow Concinnus.

[Jeff B]

I guess I'm as green as they come since I didn't understand any of that last sentence. First off, why would you only want one instead of a pair? second, there are no albino concinnus (prove me wrong) and I don't even know what to say about the snow dance.

What I meant.... and yes to my knowledge there aren't any albino concinnus available either which is why I said I would want one. But anyway what I meant was that if I had and anery concinnus and could then also aquire an albino concinnus (if one were to pop in somewhere from the wild) then I would try to create a snow concinnus.

[Jeff B]

The anery plains is a little complicated because it really shows characteristics of all three of the overly-simplified gene names; axanthic, anerythristic, and melanistic.
1. It does perhaps show melanistic charateristics, in that it does show increased black look, however that could be from an increase in melanin or a decrease in the other overlaying pigments (by the way it is not a solid black snake, and it does show pattern in grays)
2. It does demonstrate typical classical anerythristic traits in that it takes away the red-orange of the Nebraska albino when the snow is produced.
3. It does demonstate typical classical axanthic traits in that it takes away the yellows of the Iowa albino when the snow is produced.

The problem is that we have to put name on a gene and put it into a simple name group to be able to reference the animal with "said" gene, but the reality is that the gene could have multiple effects on a pathway and the final visual outcome and it may not not be "black or white", there is often a lot of gray area as to which group these genes fits into.

So I don't think anery is necessarily wrong, or needs to be changed, even if one of the other names may seem to be a better fit.
The important thing is that it is a single recessive gene, and it has been characterized what the power of that gene can do and that is has a predictable inheritance pattern, and that work has all been done by Scott Felzer, so lets just respect that fact.

[ssssnakeluvr]

What I meant.... and yes to my knowledge there aren't any albino concinnus available either which is why I said I would want one. But anyway what I meant was that if I had and anery concinnus and could then also aquire an albino concinnus (if one were to pop in somewhere from the wild) then I would try to create a snow concinnus.

there was one years ago...when I first checked out thamnophis.com....had a pic of one on there. no info on it tho