Gravid T.s.pickeringii(blue form)

[guidofatherof5]

I must ask. Over what time period did he lockup with all three.

[bkhuff1s]

In a matter of 5 days. The last two (smaller ones) he's locked up with before brumation, and I've heard they can hold it over the winter.

[guidofatherof5]

In a matter of 5 days. The last two (smaller ones) he's locked up with before brumation, and I've heard they can hold it over the winter.

It may just be longer than that. Red Sided garters can store sperm for years from a single mating. Probably not much different for Pugets.
That's one active male you've got there. A stout lad.

[ConcinusMan]

It may just be longer than that. Red Sided garters can store sperm for years from a single mating. Probably not much different for Pugets.

pickeringii and concinnus' don't do that. I already asked Dr. Robert Mason. He said he's never been able to find any evidence that they store sperm or get more than one litter from a mating like northwesterns and red sideds do. In fact, some skip years and do not mate or have litters but it takes another mating to get another litter and it's almost always just one mating with one male and one litter from it. This went for his captive snakes as well as wild ones.

[Stefan-A]

pickeringii and concinnus' don't do that.

That's not a conclusion you can draw from the lack of evidence. At best, you can say that it hasn't, to your knowledge, been observed.

[mustang]

That's not a conclusion you can draw from the lack of evidence. At best, you can say that it hasn't, to your knowledge, been observed.

something like "you cant dissprove a hypothesis, only propose a new one"-some scientist

[ConcinusMan]

That's not a conclusion you can draw from the lack of evidence. At best, you can say that it hasn't, to your knowledge, been observed.

True. I think that is actually what he said. It's never been observed.

[bkhuff1s]

I noticed him attempting to lock up with one of the smaller ones last night as well (it's been over a week since they all came out).

[bkhuff1s]

He went nuts when I originally put him with the two females he'd been separate from. I'd been leery about putting him in with them, because he's wild caught and they're CBB. I haven't seen anything wrong with him, and since I lost their male I went ahead put them together to see what would happen.

[bkhuff1s]

Yeah I brought him out two days before the females and the entire time he wouldn't sit still, cruising all over the aquarium (50 gallon). I had multiple friends ask what was wrong with him lol. As soon as I'd drop a female in there he'd stop and look at her, but as soon as she warmed up enough (to be touched I guess) he would pounce on her. Within 30 minutes each time he had locked up.