Hey Phil, we can have them up here because their protected status is only in the US, they're not CITES even so outside of the US they're fine.

Dr Phil Blais has bred them in the past here in Canada, that's probably who you're thinking of Phil. He's well known for his work with the Eastern Flame garters as well. He had a pair of San Frans available at an expo out East years ago for $1500 (if I remember the article correctly) but I haven't heard of anyone selling any up here since. He's also gifted some to close friends of his over the years so there are others who have them, they're around but never advertised. I know at least one gentleman who has/had some, unfortunately I'm not one of the lucky few when it comes to them. Perhaps one day.