Well both storeria and nerodia would definitely be OK. I just could have sworn it applied to other similar snakes too... Like natrix and liophis... I wasn't trying to argue, I was just genuinely asking a question seeing as I definitely remember this having come up before.... It was a long time ago though so my memory coukd just be skewed. I keep liophis P.... They are cool snakes, they are just like garter snakes too.... Their habits and mannerisms, right down to the way they eat and love to swim. Same with the natrix. I alway thought it was incredible how snakes that are very different from one another from separate continents could evolve to be so alike! It makes sense though.