[QUOTE=aSnakeLovinBabe;168608]If that snake was listed at $500 none of you would have had time to consider it as I would have pounced on it!

good point about breeding flame and leucistic, but the flame gene is different and it's much stronger. The red phase of green water snake is a much more toned down effect that affects the entire body overall... I don't think it'd change much once it's got such a powerful white-out gene over top of it. I had a beautiful red male at one point but he inexplicably dropped dead on me.... not surprising though since it was a baby.[/QUOTE

That flame gene sure is a strong gene. I don't know much about the red phase green waters but there's not that many morphs for the green water snakes and you gotta start somewhere besides don't you think if the white does cover the red then the normal hets maybe red which would mean nicer looking hets. Shannon do you know who had the calico baby?