I just don't like the idea of shipping live animals since there are so many things that can go wrong. Plus I'm also going to the big reptile show in Raleigh May 5th and I'm hopeful to maybe find garters there. I just hope the seller is honest when I ask if they are c/b or w/c. Sure I might be stubborn about shipping and c/b vs. w/c but I can wait. The way I see it is that I've waited the past 25 years for my husband to say yes to having a snake in the house, and the longer I wait, the more I learn from you guys.