Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
Somehow I think they will manage. Garter snakes have survived on this planet how long now?
Since at least the Middle Miocene, 10-15 Ma. If I'm reading my book right, the earliest vertebrae that can be identified as belonging to a Thamnophis species have been found in layers that date that far back.

At that point in time, what would become the orangutan lineage was just splitting off from our own.